RE: [SLUG-POL] Re: [SLUG] Robins Article About Microsoft Open Source Evangelist

From: Bryan J. Smith (b.j.smith@ieee.org)
Date: Mon Dec 25 2006 - 12:13:21 EST


I have no idea where this started, but lately, I've adopted an attitude.

There are a few cautious, responsible, professional Linux professionals and advocates.
They combine business contract law with extensive research so they are well-informed.
That way they can best counsel companies on avoiding vendor lock-in, Hostageware and protect their IP, while still sharing it with the public.

And then there are Linux advocates who practice, in essence, McCarthism.
They are ignorant, fear, and endless uncertainty, and always express doubt on everything.
It's one thing to be cautious, but it's another thing to be wholly ignorant to suggest thing slike Novell forking OpenOffice.org
(e.g., shows utter ignorance of OpenOffice.org's copyright holder, their 3+ year cross-license with MS, etc...).

Yes, Communism was a threat in McCartharies day, and some (of us more Libertarian) Americans would argue socialism remains a threat, some externally funded.
But that doesn't mean you drag down the overwhelming majority of pro-Community, pro-GPL entities in a holy war.
And the sad thing is, sometimes the people screaming the loudest are just like McCarthy, people less than honorable, with their own agenda.

I think Ubuntu's Shuttleworth is a perfect example of this.

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Sent from my Treo

-----Original Message----- From: savatage@mindspring.com Date: 06.12.25 11:08 To: slug@nks.net Cc: paulf@quillandmouse.com, slug-admin@nks.net, slug-politics@nks.net Subj: [SLUG-POL] Re: [SLUG] Robins Article About Microsoft Open Source Evangelist

Again let me rephrase this DONE! Also no need to take things personally nor to Cuss. Nothing was directed towards you personally. So that said done if you want to go on with this take it where it belongs to the politics list how ever I AM DONE with this and do not say oh no your not. It's a done subject...

Good Day!

Happy Holidays to Everyone

Bill..

-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Snyder <robertsnyder@gmail.com> >Sent: Dec 25, 2006 7:56 AM >To: slug@nks.net >Subject: Re: [SLUG] Robins Article About Microsoft Open Source Evangelist > >On 12/24/06, xcalibre <xcalibre@mindspring.com> wrote: >> >> I think for some reason you are snapping a bit here... >> Who said I would take advantage of expenses if they expect some one to >> travel and be a Evangelist they would >> have to pay for the travels... Did we not pay Maddog's Expenses....hmmm >> YES WE DID! >> >> So a $30.00 to $40.00 a night motel is out of the question when their >> other employees get top treatment >> say up to a few hundred per day? Yeah look out for that wallet. >> > >That more than reasonable but with your attitude I would expect you to milk >the cow for all the money she was worth. > > > >> Also who said I was saying anything about NDA is OK with others where did >> you draw that from >> I did not say that you jumped to that conclusion? >> > > >Because you got on Microsoft case about NDAs. Just saying there not the >only ones who use them so why even list such a illogical condition . > > >> Also you seem to be high strung on all the comments I made about >> Microsoft. >> > >No I just dont like how you went about it. With half ass remarks and lame >jokes. > > >> As for access to their Products... Well how would we compare them to the >> Open Source Equivlants? >> What spend a few thousand dollars here and there out of pocket? >> >> > >You would be given terminal server access to the applications you need. No >personal licences are allow to lead the campus. It was a hassle to fill out >all the forms just to let my friend Jason bring home a work copy of Visual



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