Re: [SLUG] Are you viewed as a computer criminal? (fwd)

From: R P Herrold (herrold@owlriver.com)
Date: Sat May 26 2001 - 21:14:10 EDT


On Sat, 26 May 2001, bill wrote:
>
> with all the MS haters, you'd think someone has tries snarfing packets
> from a fresh windows installation to see, but i couldn't find any on the
> web.

oh ... Bugtraq carried a piece two weeks ago with such a trace
(maybe in one of the forensics sub-lists ...). It went --
DHCP lease request dialog - somethingelse - multicast packet
to a MS domain host ... three packets converstions, and it had
reported in using a protocol which has the capability

No hatred of MS here ... but no love either. I've seen them
with NT phoning home since NT 4.0; there is doco showing Front
Page ('given away _free_ for a while') doing it. I've seen
them start phoning home after installing HP printer drivers
with the 'new and updated' Internet Explorer.

Nothing invidious if disclosed; and indeed, some of MY non-GPL
licensed software have had various 'branding' and reporting
since at least the '70s; but a lot of folks think that 'total
cost of ownership' means one license is good for an unlimited
number of PC's -- not so, unless one is using GPL, or certain
of the other Open Source licenses.

"If it says it's free, but doesn't have the source, it's not
free ... (tm)"

-- Russ



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