Come on, Todd. Russ is not bashing you here, he is challenging you to
document what you say.
I think we need more folks like that who ask for specifics and speak
from first hand knowledge, as Russ is an accomplished Linux sys admin
who is an active contributor to the Linux community.
Most of us are adults here: Thus, we can challenge each other and not
"get bruised" by words.
Smitty
Todd wrote:
>
> First off this was NOT a personal attack on anyone or the community and
> shame on you for turning it into a personal attack on me. Second it is
> based on my opinion in what i have read in news articles. My information
> could be dated and people opinions could have changed in the past six months
> since i have stopped actively searching out linux articles (i do still read
> /. but thats about it) since i have settled on my distro of choice. IN NO
> WAY have i claimed to be an expert or have ties inside the community....I
> only sit back, watch, and call them like i see them. BTW if you want to
> bash me and my ego please do it OFF the list.
>
> Todd
>
> > On Sun, 27 May 2001, Todd wrote:
> >
> > > Yup in the grand scheme of things its tiny...and it will fail for one
> reason
> > > and one reason only......Egos.....for example: The people at red hat
> have
> > > already said no way that they would use apt-get
> >
> > IANARHE -- Cite please, ,,, I think that's a
> > mischaracterization -- certainly Jeff Johnson, who is the
> > prime architect for the maintenance and extension of RPM at
> > Red Hat, which is the affected engine, has not said that ...
> > Indeed the package relocations at RH 7.0 were largely to
> > conform to the latest (still not official) FHS specs.
> >
> > Indeed, Jeff offered some thoughts on the rpm-list to the
> > Connectiva fellows to enhancing their apt-get based RPM
> > updating product (against the strict commercial interest of
> > RH); and has detailed the intracies of fixing RPM databases,
> > without charge, on that list, after Ximian Red Carpet has
> > corrupted several ,,, hardly monopolistic behaviour.
> >
> > > and the people at debian say rpm is evil (paraphrasing of
> > course)....
> >
> > Gee, I nust have missed that one too -- funny, for I read my
> > Debian-QA, and Debian Weekly News most carefully. Cite,
> > please.
> >
> > > what is gonna make the standard and
> > > what will that standard be?...if there ever is a standard it will work
> this
> > > way: 1. Placement of libs 2. standard for "other" system files.
> Thats
> > > all that might ever be agreed up on and *I* feel it wont even make it
> that
> > > far because of some of the egos involved.
> >
> > I had not noticed the ego in Stuart Anderson's presentation to
> > SLUG -- http://www.suncoastlug.org/anderson.html -- nor in
> > Andrew Josey's work as reflected by the Open Group pitching in
> > on this work, with the conformance testing harness, and
> > roughly monthly public updates on distro compliance across
> > the LSB-devel list.
> >
> > > In case you havent noticed there
> > > are some HUGE egos in the linux community and those people hate it when
> they
> > > have to concede even little points. Its nothing wrong with the
> community
> > > its just a fact of life you see EVERYWHERE.
> >
> > Well I see at least one ego. A google search, and a deja
> > search turn up this:
> >
> > > Your search - author:trunnels@tampabay.rr.com - did not
> > > match any documents.
> > > No pages were found containing "trunnels@tampabay.rr.com"
> >
> > Under what userid and email address do you contribute, rather
> > than throw rocks?
> >
> > -- Russ
> >
> >
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