RE: [SLUG] MCSE certification & System Analyst position

From: Craig Zeigler (craig@penguindevelopment.com)
Date: Mon Jul 22 2002 - 09:09:54 EDT


Definitely. Let the boss pay for it.. But remember your are going to be
stuffed with prattle from the propaganda machine :P

Besides, it looks great on your resume as most business people only look
at the papers instead of the person.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Vo [mailto:dmvo@eng.usf.edu]
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 5:42 AM
To: slug@nks.net
Subject: [SLUG] MCSE certification & System Analyst position

Thanks for all the wakeup calls and tips.
I was lucky enough to get an IT job when I just got out from school.
Right now I am the only support person for the department and my boss
adviced me to be a MCSE certified and the department will pay for it.
Is it worth of time and effort to be MCSE certified?
Also at my job, there is a system analyst position open and they require
unix,oracle,novell, and 3 years of heatth care related programing
experience.

If interested please send me your resume to my email account.

To bpreece1, any advice on books and practice lab you can give me so I
can
get a head start?

Thanks again to all of you who responded.

God Bless

David

-----Original Message-----
From: slug@lists.nks.net [mailto:slug@lists.nks.net]On Behalf Of
bpreece1@tampabay.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 4:46 PM
To: slug@nks.net
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Computers and SLUG-Sarasota

Ian hit it right on the nose.
The Job market here in Tampa right now SUCKS.
I just got done working with Walter Industries AKA Jim Walter Homes for
4
years they laid me off and I was the Only PC support
Tech for 140 + Locations and then I was suppose to go to the Networking
side. They decided due to the Economy to cut back to 3 people for
supporting
over 6000+ people. They then out source the rest when ever a project
come
along.

Since October 5th of last year I have been looking for work. The only
thing
that was good out of this is The Operation Paycheck.
Gets you free training to get back to work I took the sorry to say
M.C.S.E.
because it is now around $11,000.00 worth of free training.

They did not have any Linux stuff ready for this when I went. Any ways
I
have tried Head Hunters Posting Resume on Monster , Brain Buzz and Dice
nothing. I have hit every Agency I can find believe me there is a ton of
them . They have nothing ! The Tampa Tribune for I.T. related Jobs is
down
beyond
belief. Usually the only jobs is coders , Synergy which has ran their ad
for
months. and Two others and time to time AOL desk Support.

Until these Companies stop cutting more and more and think that helps
the
economy it is getting worse. Any ways I can tell you with over 9 Years
of
Computer and I.T. experience and Certifications as Ian said the market
SUCKS. Also this is not just here it is almost every where.

As I E-Mailed Bob Weinstien who writes I.T. Articles who Tampa Tribune
also
publishes. He about 4 weeks ago said the jobs are out there I basically
told
him not In this Area or 4 others I have looked. Tampa Dead, Orlando
Dead,
Charlotte North Carolina Dead, even Raleigh NC is dead right now.

So I will wish you Luck.

Hopefully when Next Month I am done with my M.C.S.E. at USF and with my
other Certs the market will start slowly moving. Right now it is going
in
reverse. BTW Intel cutting 4,000 people. :(( This has to end!

Good Luck to you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian C. Blenke <icblenke@nks.net>
To: slug@nks.net <slug@nks.net>
Date: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Computers and SLUG-Sarasota

>On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 15:29, David Vo wrote:
>> Hey Mark,
>> I just graduated fom USF with a computer engineering
>> degree and I am trying to persue toward to be the
>> network engineer.
>> Can you shed me something to where is a good starting
>> point?
>
>If you don't know by now, you're probably going to have to take
whatever
>you can get.
>
>The market in Tampa sucks. TALENTED employees are cheap. Finding work
is
>hard. Take the job WHEREVER you can find it, don't limit yourself to
>Tampa.
>
>Also, be willing to work cheap. Don't hold out for some huge salary you
>perceive your degree should entitle you to.
>
>The best thing you really could have done while in school was an
>Internship now and again over the summers, or running a small company
on
>the side to get some business contacts.
>
>Yes, a degree gets your foot in the door when business review your
crisp
>new resume with nothing but that fast-food restraunt you worked at in
>high-school as previous job experience. Unfortunately, there are 100
>other people with their foot in the door, and they have all kinds of
>intresting things that employers want to see (primarily a stable work
>background and a no-bullshit list of skills that fit the job position
>they are trying to fill).
>
>The question is, where do YOU want to start? Employers love to hear a
>straight and honest answer, with some distinct goals and a lot of
>ambition in the interview.
>
>I'm not trying to get you down, just enlighten you to the reality of
the
>Tampa job market and the tech industry in general. If you have a job,
be
>happy with it. If you don't have a job, take what you can get. It beats
>McDonalds. Seriously.
>
>Granted, this is my opinion, I may be completely off base here. If I
am,
>I'm sure someone will be more than happy to correct me. ;)
>
>- Ian C. Blenke <icblenke@nks.net>
>
>



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