On Tuesday 06 August 2002 13:10, you wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-08-05 at 21:00, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > > The good thing about Java though, particularly non-GUI Java apps,
> >
> > Umm, excuse some dumb questions. I've never coded in Java. I only know
> > that it resembles C++ but does its own garbage collection. And that
> > browsers can run Java apps if there's a Java runtime and the browser has
> > Java enabled.
> >
> > So based on your post, is it true that you can run a Java app outside a
> > browser? Second question is: how is it that you can have a "non-GUI"
> > java app? Like one that could run in a curses environment? Or when you
> > say "non-GUI", you really mean "has to run in X, but doesn't need a
> > mouse to work"?
>
> You can install the "WebStart" helper application. WebStart uses a XML
> based Java Network Launch Protocol (JNLP) file to know how to pull down
> class files and launch a Java application locally. WebStart is little
> more than a MIME type handler for x-java-jnlp-file.
>
> You can run a java app that just does simple stdin/stdout console IO.
> There are classes out there folks have written to wrap ASCII based
> terminal escape sequences like:
>
> Charva
> http://www.pitman.co.za/projects/charva/
>
> Yeah, it's sick. But it can be done. A java application does have
> read/write access to the console where it is started. If a java console
> has terminal emulation, you can output the escape sequences via a class
> wrapper (for curses-like support) or straight to the terminal (like a
> termcap approach).
>
> However, it's no less sick than something like VNCj:
>
> http://www.amherst.edu/~tliron/vncj/
>
> Ok, so I like thin client. ;)
> Even more sick would be native X11 in Java:
>
> http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/
>
> The possibilities are literally endless.
>
> Typically, you will find Java versions of terminal emulators for
> telnet/ssh/jxterm/etc, generally for applet use.
>
> - Ian C. Blenke <icblenke@nks.net>
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