Re: [SLUG] Verizon and SMTP

From: Ian C. Blenke (icblenke@nks.net)
Date: Fri Nov 01 2002 - 11:57:16 EST


On Friday 01 November 2002 11:21, Derek Glidden wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 13:53, rhires@earthlink.net wrote:
> > Hey Everyone,
> >
> > I've been silent for a while, since SMTP doesn't work for me right now
> > under Verizon's network. That is, when I send mail via SMTP (which I had
> > been doing before under Earthlink's DSL), it seems to drop off into
> > oblivion. It worked before under earthlink...I still am using my
> > earthlink account for sending and receiving mail...I guess verizon
> > doesn't want to pass mail through its network bound for earthlink and the
> > to the rest of the net? Can anyone shed some light on this?
>
> my parents were using Verizon here in Tampa. As far as I can tell,
> anything sent through their network on SMTP silently disappears unless
> it's sent directly through Verizon's SMTP servers.
>
> That means you can't put up your own local mail server and expect mail
> to be delivered through Verizon. You MUST contact Verizon's own SMTP
> servers to send email. The problem with that is that you can only send
> mail through Verizon's SMTP servers if your "FROM" address is your
> Verizon email address. So if, like my parents, you have an account
> somewhere else like [someone]@thegliddens.org, you can't send email
> through Verizon using that address because the SMTP servers will deny
> it.
>
> It's the most f-ed up situation I've seen, completely unecessary, and
> does absolutely nothing for preventing SPAM, which I assume is the
> reason it's configured the way it is.
>
> So I put a modem and a second phone line at home and now they dial up to
> my home network where everything works correctly, like crack-smoking
> f-ing idiots DIDN'T set up the network.

What about SMTP over SSL? (TCP port 465?), possibly with authentication if you
want to stop spammers who figure out how to use open SSMTP relays.

I've given up hope of using my ISP's mail relay. Ever.

 - Ian



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