Re: [SLUG] Moving forward on the Training Issue

From: Ian C. Blenke (icblenke@nks.net)
Date: Thu Jan 30 2003 - 18:14:25 EST


On Thursday 30 January 2003 17:35, Levi Bard wrote:
> I wonder if it's humanly possible to respond to an entire (HUGE) thread
> with one email. Probably not, so I'll write a script to do it! :P
>
> I think quite a bit of real support is building for this "linux classroom"
> initiative.
>
> The idea of one-way audio on top of IRC is a good one IMO. On
> freenode.net, they do a similar thing in #wopn, broadcasting a live ogg
> feed via http and taking feedback from listeners via text in the irc
> channel. I'm not wild about the idea of VNC as a teaching tool. For one,
> some of the material will be over non-GUI subject matter, and would be very
> difficult to handle with VNC - for instance, X configuration. For another,
> "students" will probably want to work along with the lecturer, not just sit
> and listen like bumps on a linuxized log. That will mean a lot of
> twiddling with VNC client windows and xterms and irc clients and browsers
> and you get the idea.

Oh, absolutely, I'm not saying that the shared screen be anything more than an
instructor's desktop that many others can view via a webpage (VNC Java
applet)... you do need an IRC channel, jabber server, or something similar
for discussions and feedback. A one-way live ogg stream also makes sense to
me.

Record both the audio stream and the VNC session and store it away for future
reference (why waste all of that imparted knowledge?) Checkpoint your
discussion/class periodically, and tag those checkpoints so people can find
it again later. Converting VNC/ogg to MPEG would allow folks to download the
clips locally to watch, copy, or burn as they wish.

> We could get a labful of Linux machines if everyone with a laptop (or a
> spare desktop and a strong, willing back) brings one in.

Again, a logistical nightmare. It really needs to be virtual if this is to
take off as a "community effort" (think beyond the TampaBay area)

> I also would be willing to present a class, and I would be interested to
> see a list of topics people are avid to explore.

I would be willing to put together some content/presentations using such a
VNC/audio setup... but it would need to end up on a website for future
reference. I'm not going to spend hours of time I really don't have to type
away in chat channels and talking/demonstrating the same things over and over
again. Besides, interest would dissapate: consider the current "#suncoastlug"
channel on IRC.

Also, try to stress "Quality", not Quantity. The best presentations take a bit
of planning and an overall design to really merge seamlessly. Know your
target audience and present to that. Use callback where appropriate to refer
students to previous recorded materials. The more a series of presentations
"gel", the more comfortable a student will be.

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- Ian C. Blenke <icblenke@nks.net>

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