Re: [SLUG] Java programming internships

From: Mark Banschbach (mrbear37@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Jun 12 2003 - 14:17:43 EDT


Preach On Brother Roblimo !

   Let me also make the correction that my original
statement was NOT an objection to having internships,
but rather the the view of them by corporate America.

   Thanks Roblimo for sharing !

Mark
--- Robin 'Roblimo' Miller <robin@roblimo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Now if you want to be productive and play nice and
> work together on
> >getting some sort of union / organization going I'm
> right there in the
> >trench with you but I'm not just going to lie on my
> back and be treated
> >like dirt because people like you feel that I'm
> moving in on their turf.
> >
>
> Once upon a time, crafts unions -- the direct
> descendants of the
> medieval guilds that liberated their towns and
> cities from the
> serf-owning nobility -- considered it their
> responsibility to sponsor
> apprentices, and employers also considered it their
> responsibility to
> train the next generation of carpenters, machinists,
> bricklayers, and so on.
>
> Now, in today's America, we pretend selfishness and
> short-sightedness
> are virtues, and we don't believe in apprenticeships
> or anything else
> that might benefit our communities and our country
> in the long run.
> Employees are disposable machines, not humans worthy
> of loyalty and
> long-term nurturing.
>
> We are moving toward a Hobbesian economy, with "Each
> man at war with all
> others."
>
> An absolute free market is fine for economists and
> billionaires, but it
> purely sucks for everyone else.
>
> We should be welcoming interns and nurturing them,
> not worrying that The
> Bosses will can long-term, skilled workers and
> replace them with interns
> to save in the short term. But this is "market
> efficiency," and Florida
> is a "Right to Work (for next to nothing until you
> drop and get replaced
> by someone even easier to exploit) State," so many
> are hostile to
> young workers, seeing them as nothing but
> competition.
>
> Still, there are a few rays of hope in the gloom:
>
http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/06/11/2022224&tid=23
>
> I personally refuse to go along with the current
> meanness. I am not a
> Christian, but I believe in many Christian values,
> and I will continue
> to practice them -- and encourage others to practice
> them -- despite the
> efforts of our current political 'leaders' to
> denigrate helpfulness in
> any form, and generally treat the working people of
> the U.S. like smelly
> garbage.
>
> - Robin
>
>
>
>
>
>

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