Re: [SLUG] networking

From: A2L1 (ulmerton@tampadsl.net)
Date: Sun Jul 25 2004 - 23:59:03 EDT


On Sunday 25 July 2004 23:33, Ken Elliott wrote:
OK everyone I give up. I will play with this later but because
I need the net connection I am going to run a cable all
around the outside of the house to back here and connect with
wire. it will just be alot faster and simplier because I
need the net connection now.
Thank everyone, especially Ken, for all the help.
By this time tomorrow the local lan will be hardwired and I
can go on. I will try to get this net setup anyway with the
wireless but at least now its not going to be critical.

Thanks again,
A J

> >>Why DHCP?
>
> He repairs Macs. If he sets a static IP address and
> forgets to set it back, it's a problem for the user.
>
> >>As for the SuSE box, just configure the kernel for NAT
>
> I was trying to figure out how, expecting to see something
> under network services, but found nothing. Since I don't
> have two NICs on my SuSE box, I doubted I could help him.
> But.... I just found it.
>
> AJ, here's your answer. And it is easy.
>
> In YAST, under "Security and Users", Firewall. Set the
> internal interface to your HP NIC, and the external
> interface to your Wireless. On the next page, don't select
> any services, and click 'next'. You can click 'next' on
> page 3, as well. On the last page, you can clear the logs
> if you want (your option). Contine and you should have it.
>
> Ken Elliott
>
> =====================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of
> Russell Hires Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 8:27 PM
> To: slug@nks.net
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] networking
>
> Why DHCP? He could just go around and put all the Macs on
> static addresses. As for the SuSE box, just configure the
> kernel for NAT...connect one end of the box to the net, the
> other to the hub that the Macs are connected to...voila.
>
> Russell
>
> On Sunday 25 July 2004 18:40, Ken Elliott wrote:
> > Ok all you Linux Experts....
> >
> > AJ needs his Linux box to be a DHCP server and router for
> > a bunch of Macs. He has a DSL wireless router in the
> > front room connected to his wife's PC. His backroom Linux
> > box is connected via wireless and sees the internet just
> > fine. He works on Macs and needs to be able to connect
> > them to the Internet for software upgrades. He has a hub
> > that is plugged into the Linux wired Network card, as are
> > the Macs. The Linux box wireless NIC is configured via
> > DHCP on the router(192.168.1.x). The second (wired) NIC
> > in the Linux box is fixed at 192.168.2.10.
> >
> > He needs you highly intelligent fellows to come to his
> > aid and tell him how to configure DHCP and routing on
> > this SuSE 9.1 box, so his Macs can see the Internet.
> >
> > I did my part on the phone, by helping him simplify what
> > he has, but when he fires up DHCP in YAST, he gets
> > errors, and I've never setup DHCP on Linux. <imagine a
> > "whoosh" sound over my head>
> >
> > Please help him before he places that XP CD in the
> > drive...
> >
> > Ken Elliott
> >
> > =====================
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of
> > A2L1 Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 6:02 PM
> > To: slug@nks.net
> > Subject: Re: [SLUG] networking
> >
> > I am not the best at clarification , let me try to
> > clearly explain. Although the dual dhcp thing might be
> > the problem. OK here it goes. The linux box has its
> > internet conection by PCI wireless card so the internet
> > to the back room is only by wireless. So that I dont have
> > to buy multiple wireless cards I figured to make use of
> > what I have. I have the linux box up
> > 24/7 and it has a built in nic so I figured to use that
> > as a "server" to the D-link router(which is also just
> > laying around. The D-Link is set as a dhcp server. I have
> > multiple macs and a few other tower units (windows and
> > linux). If the D-Link is hooked up I can then just plug
> > and unplug as I need the other units to be online. Now if
> > there is a problem with the linux box being a dhcp server
> > to the router which in turn is a dhcp server then I guess
> > the linux box would have to still be a server to the
> > router but using a static? Networking is not even close
> > to something I comprehend fully and I get just more
> > confused as I read more, mostly the terminolgy is
> > difficult to put in context. In plain and simple
> > terminolgy here is what I would
>
> like to do !.
>
> > get the linux box to act as a server to provide internet
> > to the router/firewall 2. Have the router/firewall act as
> > a server so that I may plug in different units that I am
> > testing or working on. 3.I would like to use the existing
> > hardware that I have. i have plenty of nic's and a ton of
> > cable, two different router/firewalls/. The problem with
> > wireless with the mac is the macs use 40 bit wep and wont
> > hook up to the 64 bit wep on the wireless so in order to
> > get internet access for the macs I have to either have a
> > cable(rj45) connection or have to use mac
> > airport(expensive) which I do not want to buy.
> > With everything that can be done with linux there has to
> > be a way to use the linux box with its wireless internet
> > access to provide internet access to the other units in
> > the room, I just dont have a clue on
>
> how.
>
> > For now I will try to have the D-Link issue static IPs
> > and see if I can connect, but I would prefer a dhcp
> > because it would be easier when I hook up other boxes.
> > Thanks for the input, I'm off to try.
> > A J
> >
> > On Saturday 24 July 2004 16:19, Ken Elliott wrote:
> > > >>I installed and initiated both dhcp and dns servers
> > > >>
> > > >>The D-Link shows a Wlan signal and when I connect a
> > > >> caple to it and to the
> > >
> > > mac it also shows a connection.
> > >
> > > Do you have DHCP turned OFF on the D-Link router? You
> > > can't have two DHCP servers on the same network
> > > segment.
> > > So, if you have the Mac and Linux box both plugged into
> > > the router you must either use the router's DHCP
> > > server, _OR_ the Linux DHCP server, but never both.
> > > Now, if you have two network cards in the Linux box,
> > > one going to the router, one going to the Mac, that's
>
> different.
>
> > > Why are you going to the trouble of using a DNS server
> > > for just 2 computers? It that's all there are, you
> > > could simply create a hosts file on each machine,
> > > containing the hostname and IP address of the other,
> > > and either use fixed IP addresses, or configure your
> > > router to assign a known IP address based on the NIC
> > > hardware address.
> > >
> > > I don't think I understand everything you're trying to
> > > do, so more information will help.
> > >
> > > Smarter more Linux-savvy guys will chip in soon.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ken Elliott
> > >
> > > =====================
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of
> > > A2L1 Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 3:18 PM
> > > To: slug@nks.net
> > > Subject: [SLUG] networking
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > Things were progressing nicely, got the antenna up and
> > > signal strenght is up on the wireless and that is all
> > > working well. The problem I am having is getting SuSE
> > > 9.1 pro to act as a dhcp server. I installed and
> > > initiated both dhcp and dns servers and they are up
> > > and running according to yast. I connected a cable to
> > > the onboard nic ( which is designated as eth0 by the bo
> > > and the other end to a D-Link router/firewall. The
> > > D-Link shows a Wlan signal and when I connect a caple
> > > to it and to the mac it also shows a connection. The
> > > mac shows an Ip and subnet but cant connect to the net.
> > > i cannot ping the linux box from the mac. I can access
> > > the D-Link from the mac and access all the
> > > settings(they all seem
>
> right---dhcp).
>
> > > I am assuming that the SuSE box is not sending a dhcp
> > > to the D-Link and I dont know what to do next. Has
> > > anyone set a SuSe 9.1 pro box as a dhcp server and
> > > would it be possible to get a copy of the
> > > /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd. I assume that is what needs
> > > modifying? Any help is appreciated.
> > > Thanks,
> > > A J
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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