Re: [SLUG] another reason for linux

From: Ian Blenke (icblenke@nks.net)
Date: Thu Aug 12 2004 - 14:10:01 EDT


Sean Tempesta wrote:

> Raw sockets shouldn't be available for Windows XP users or any release
> that is targeted to consumers. Access to them can only cause
> problems. (spoofing, malformed packets, etc..) Seriously, is the
> average user going to need them?

As an admin, I really like the ability to fire up a ethernet sniffer
like ethereal without loading a third-party IP stack shim to get at the
NDIS packets before Microsoft's crappy stack gets their grubby hands on
it. The OS should be an enabling technology (with appropriate security
precautions), not a debilitating leash holding me back.

You probably follow Gibson's thinking:

    http://grc.com/dos/sockettome.htm

I'm more a grcsucks.com fan myself:

    http://www.grcsucks.com/

*Every* operating system has the potential to spoof packets. Microsoft
limits RAW sockets to Administrative users by default (as it should).
Perhaps Microsoft should focus in on the security exploits allowing
rogue processes to escalate their privileges.

- Ian
 
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