[SLUG] Re: OT: picked up a screw around rig today

From: Bryan J. Smith (b.j.smith@ieee.org)
Date: Sat Dec 04 2004 - 19:30:11 EST


On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 12:44, Chad Perrin wrote:
> Last I checked, I seem to remember seeing some outrageously high RAM
> requirements for Fedora installation. Even the text-based install was
> listed in at least one location as requiring something like 96MB of RAM.
> If that's an accurate representation of the requirements, I'd like to
> know how he shoehorned Fedora into a system with only 48MB of RAM. If
> not, I'd like to know where that number came from, though of course I
> didn't bookmark it so I've no way to check now.

On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 17:00, Eben King wrote:
> He may have removed the hard drive and done the install on a different
> machine. I've done that.

On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 17:24, Chad Perrin wrote:
> That was my first thought. I didn't want to bias the answers by
> suggesting it myself, though.

On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 18:56, Robert Snyder wrote:
> There might be some bypass around the installer. windows xp checks to
> see if you have at least 128 megs of ram but there is a way of still
> running setup minus the ram check so that might of been the answer.
> Fedora might have some type of do not check switch in it too.
> or he put some more ram in for the install from a different machine.

At this point, I really don't know what to say. I've stated that I've
installed Fedora Core on as little as 32MB and even 24MB of RAM. Now I
made sure I had pre-made/pre-formatted swap. And I didn't boot right
into the GUI. But I did it with the _stock_ installer.

Red Hat has _always_ been _extremely_ conservative on their numbers.
The Rule Project has found that Red Hat artificially bloats its
numbers. They even respun a "Miniconda" version that used to install in
as little as 16MB, although that was back in the Red Hat Linux 9 time
period -- but that's when Red Hat said 48MB of minimum.

You guys can keep going on and speculating. But I have specifically
stated what *I* was able to do. And I'm not the only one. God forbid
one of you actually try to do it. The Fedora Project is really opening
up a lot -- including offering a 3rd standard desktop in XFCE starting
with Fedora Core 2.

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Bryan J. Smith                                    b.j.smith@ieee.org 
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