Re: [SLUG] Real OSes

From: paddy (paddy@ij.net)
Date: Thu Dec 01 2005 - 07:43:08 EST


Bill Shaw wrote:

> If you want to rip Windows at least make valid points....
>
> On 11/30/05, *Kwan Lowe* < kwan@digitalhermit.com
> <mailto:kwan@digitalhermit.com>> wrote:
>
>
> I enjoy when some Windows "power user" swings by my home office to
> chat. Most of
> them have read and can parrot the Microsoft verbiage about how
> Linux is somehow not
> as "professional" as Windows. They have heard their Microsoft reps
> say things like,
> "Well if you're going to use a FREE OS, then you get what you pay
> for." They have
> read their Windows magazines. So they stop by, armed with their
> glorious picture of
> the Microsoft World.... And get furiously stomped.
>
>
> They get stomped by you how? Do you go crazy like Godzilla and stomp
> their cases?
>
>
> As wonderful and heartwarming as the Linux community and GPL and
> free-as-in-speech
> computing is, what it boils down to is that Linux is very
> *practical*. I can get a
> heckuva lot of stuff done that I couldn't in front of a Windows
> box, at least not
> without some significant cash outlay.
>
>
> Besides the cost of buying Windows perhaps you should state what that
> "significant cash layout" is. I hope you don't say Office because you
> know how to use OO.
>
> Windows also has these annoying little problems that don't exist
> on Linux. For
> example, the Citrix client works well on Linux with two screens.
> Everything works as
> normal. Try it on the Windows machine and the client gets confused
> and draws massive
> windows. I *NEED* multiple virtual desktops to organize my work.
> In Linux just
> about every window manager can do this well. In Windows you can
> load the Powertools
> desktop switcher but it doesn't work correctly with apps such as
> Excel (maximize,
> switch to another desktop, switch back, and you've lost your
> menus). In Linux I can
> create a PDF from a printjob very easily.... In Windows I was told
> I need to install
> Acrobat... Etc. etc..
>
>
> Can't say I've ever had that problem with Citrix. And why do you you
> need to install Acrobat? Up above you're telling us how you often use
> Open Office. Oh that's right. You couldn't make your point if you
> bothered to mention that you can do that in OO and that it's free.
>
> Geez, whenever I use Windows I feel like I'm riding a tricycle.
>
>
> As opposed to trying to ride a unicycle with only one leg trying to
> get something to work in Linux? Overall I'd give this troll posting a
> 1/10.
>
> Perhaps next time you should try to point out advantages of using
> Linux instead of spreading your own FUD. They could be things like:
>
> - Choice. There's more distro's than you can shake a stick at. If
> one doesn't work for you there's probably one out there that does.
> - GUI. I'd kill to have KDE on Windows. Hell I'd kill to have OSX
> GUI instead.
> - Security. Not running as root is a good thing. No viruses. No
> spyware. No Sony rootkit.
> - Bugs are fixed within hours/days instead of 6+ months
> - Limited support for MS products when they reach their life cycle.
> How many people out there still use Windows 98 or ME?
> - Live CD's. It's like a try before you buy. Don't like it? Well
> you didn't have to install it to find out you don't like it.
> - Obtaining application software. How many CD's is the latest Debian
> stable release? 14?
>
> There's more and I'm sure others can point them out. But there's also
> reasons to run Windows. And reasons you may want to run OSX.
>
>
Hey Bill;

Are you having a bad day? If you are going to demand that a guy give
reasons for what you call not making valid points, why don't you make
valid points for running windows? Ripping a guy for pointing out why he
likes Linux over Windblows is not good form. Geez, give us a break.

Paddy
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