Re: [SLUG] Debian

From: Mike Branda (mike@wackyworld.tv)
Date: Thu Dec 29 2005 - 11:18:14 EST


On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 09:22 -0500, SOTL wrote:

> What product mix do these alleged titians of the IT world bring to the market
> and at whom is it focused? Basically SuSE focus has been toward business. Now
> consider that one of the big items that business uses is a MySQL server it
> can only be viewed as the high of total complete incompetence that you would
> deliver a product to your principal client base that is knowling so defective
> that it is nonfunctional by the intended user.

O.K....lets get something straight. A few things in the way of SuSE....
1, you are downloading a free copy (by your own admission on this list)
intended for home desktop users. 2, if you had actually paid the 59.95
at the store you would have gotten the hard copy beautifully printed
docs which would have probably been easier for YOU to read.

--quote from SuSE site--

As you would expect, when you purchase SUSE Linux 10.0, you'll receive
more than 4,000 software packages as well as a printed user manual,
extensive online help resources and 90 days of free installation
support.

--/quote--

But most importantly, SuSE carries a product called SLES (SuSE Linux
Enterprise Server) that has support and includes a lot of extra tools
that make administration for many things easier. I guess you're judging
the enterprise server version....right?? Because that is the product
that most businesses would use. However, there are only minor
differences between the two and MySql is not one of them.

You want hand holding?? I'll give it to you. This weekend I'm going to
set your OOffice MySql thing up at home and give you a step by step for
SuSE 10. I'll bet I can do it in 10 steps or less leaving nothing out.
It's not hard. You are just not reading the included SuSE
documentation. This is the only conclusion I can draw because if you
read it properly, you would not be having these problems. The SuSE
docs are very much hand holding. Not to mention that MySql is sooooo
widely used that they spend a lot of time making sure it's easy to set
up.

>
> For the techie types on this list that simply do not get it consider this this
> way. Some body offers you a job working a a firm 30 miles away whose only
> access to is by car. You have just purchased a car from Cheap Charlies Used
> Cars since it is the only one you can afford.

So you bought SuSE?? Otherwise Cheap charlie gave you a fully
operational car for free, including the owners manual ON THE BACK SEAT
and you decided to try to drive the car in your infinite wisdom without
realizing that this was a hybrid car that you have to learn to drive it
differently than the Ford (Windows)(....insert shameless Chevy plug) you
previously knew how to drive. You're going to be amazed at how simple
this is come this weekend. If you still need help after the step by
step, Then get somebody else who read the manual to DRIVE THE CAR FOR
YOU.

> So off you go to the old tech support
> group where the answer to your questions is that if you are not techie enough
> to repair the car then it is just to bad that you can not get to work. AND!
> BY THE WAY DON"T BITCH THAT YOU PAID CHEAP CHARLIE FOR A COMPLETE FUNCTIONAL
> CAR AND DID"T GET ONE. [There have been several posting on this list of this
> caliber.]
>

People are at this state because you are not giving any kind of proper
feedback. Instead of complaining about things try posting _exactly_
what you are doing and what you've done.

And again, changing distros doesn't help any of this. All you are
doing is adding more stuff to have to learn before you can get down to
the real thing you want to accomplish. All the distros can handle
mysql. I'm sure of it. Stick with what you know best.

> For some non tackies that is full hand holding.

Pay for phone support. Microsoft doesn't even do that for free.

--begin nonsense--

Paul,

Maybe we should create an additional sub*cr*be list that people have to
pay for to sign up?? Obviously the free community support is getting
complaints and not cutting it.

--/nonsense--

Mike Branda Jr.

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