>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 12:51 pm, in message
<620c90570601180951n8f9f980se527270e103c374a@mail.gmail.com>,
wchast@gmail.com
wrote:
> On 1/18/06, John Pugh <jpugh@novell.com> wrote:
>> >>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 10:19 am, in message
>> <200601181019.09276.steve@szmidt.org>, steve@szmidt.org wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 18 January 2006 02:21, Bob Stia wrote:
>> >> Uummmm.... Hey guys, supposedly playing encrypted DVDs is illegal
on
>> a
>> >> computer. Even if you bought and own the disc. Xine & Mplayer
are
>> >> purposely crippled by many distros to prevent this because of
legal
>> >> restrictions/fears. Don't know about Debian and the other
distros
>> but in
>> >> Suse you have to dump the distro package and get an un-
crippled
>> one. In
>> >> SuSE you can get either or both at the Packman site. A little
>> googling will
>> >> point you in the right direction. You MUST also install a copy
of
>> libdvdcss
>> >> to play these DVDs or it won't work. Even libdvdcss has been
pulled
>> from
>> >> many sites in the US and Europe because of these
>> restrictions/regulations.
>> >> It is available though. I got my latest copy from a site in
Brazil.
>> I've
>> >> been watching DVD movies for several years now. (Since 8.2 -
now at
>> 10.0)
>> >
>> > What I remember of the case is that it is not illegal. Further
judges
>> have
>> > been slamming down on what amounts to trying to over reach what
the
>> DMCA was
>> >
>> > designed for. It's also being held as unconstitutional by the EFF.
I
>> think
>> > every recent case brought on by the record industry have been
knocked
>> down
>> > by
>> > the judges.
>> >
>> > The guy who wrote the tool to read dvd's (Jon Leech) ended up
winning
>> the
>> > case
>> > on appeal in Norway. Ditto with another case in CA where they
decided
>> to
>> > drop
>> > the case for distributing DeCSS. California Appeal Court upheld
that
>> it's
>> > legal to distribute.
>> >
>> > People pulled it because they were afraid to get legally
involved.
>> Even if
>> > you
>> > are in the right it's expensive to go to court, as I'm sure you
>> know.
>> >
>> > You can get it and other (legal) upgrades here:
>> > http://stanton- finley.net/
>>
>> FWIW...Novell/SUSE was asked as part of our license agreement with
>> Real, Intel and others to not include the parts that MAY
potentially
>> violate any type of piracy, DCMA, or RIAA "licenses". That is why a
lot
>> of the MM stuff isn't in the distribution, but is available thru
YOU
>> (yast online update) after the fact.
>>
>
> Is this true for the downloadable ISO's or the boxed CD's too?
>
> --
> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT --
I think it's for either...keep in mind that I can play mp3, ogg, wav,
etc out of the box with what comes with it...however, what I mention
above is what I'm told and confirmed via several inside sources. I don't
really know what exactly is NOT included.
JP
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