On Thursday 16 March 2006 17:20, Ian C. Blenke wrote:
> Much of this probably needs to go to slug-politics soon, but I'll bite:
> Capitalism and economics. That our global society and legal systems
> allow some individuals to prey on others is a big part of the problem
> here. Ethics are moral guidelines that allow you to live with yourself.
> Laws are legal guidelines that allow you to live with others.
Ethics is what is survival for all, morals is what is survival for a specific
group. If you're a gangster it might be immoral for them to NOT commit a
crime.
> If someone finds a legal way to make money preying on others in this
> manner, is it not our laws that are failing?
No. Laws are there to cover what we are too weak in. You can tell how good or
bad off a country/area is by how many laws it has.
People have an innate sense of right and wrong. Some think they cannot win
within the framework and basically step outside our society.
This is actually a phenomena that occurs when you can't keep up in class. You
start to disconnect from the area where you have misunderstood words.
As a computer oriented person we continously come in contact with wild
technical terms. It's very important to always get the proper definition for
them. I'm sure you can recall a time when you ran away from an area after not
understanding something.
> Do we blame software developers like Microsoft for leaving these
> loopholes open? Do we blame the cretins that take advantage of these
> holes ? Do we blame the advertisers? Do we blame the legal system for
> not making laws to protect citizens? Do we blame law enforcement for
> their inability to enforce them?
Blame, shame, regret does not take us anywhere. One has to stand up and set an
example. Make a difference in someones life.
> I couldn't live with myself if I were exploiting holes in software to
> spy on others. It's against my personal code of ethics. But I do
This is a good thing : )
> My "feelings" are that it is wrong, and I would want society to outlaw
> such blatant abuse, I can only have my opinion and my ability to voice
> my "feelings". Because, in the end, there are many facts and many sides
> to every story. Facts and "feelings" are two entirely different things.
>
> Humans are animals. Humans eat. Humans sleep. Humans procreate. Our
> brains have evolved to respond to erotic stimuli. Why deny this?
>
> I continue to fail to see what is so "immoral" with pornography when
> enjoyed by consenting adults. But that's me.
When sex becomes a casual thing, societies fall apart. Look at history, every
single society where promiscuity is common place, is gone. I find it an
excellent yardstick for how ethical a society is. Having travelled half the
world it's served me well.
> That's quite a bill rate. Depends on supply and demand, right?
Yeah, but I'm glad not to live there anymore... Not where you want to raise
your children.
> Hey, my brain isn't wired that way, but I understand other people's
> brains are. Understanding that, I really don't see a problem.
I don't want to contribute to it. Be part of the problem or solution.
> Also, I wouldn't mind that $650/hr billrate. ;)
Move to Hollywood. The valley is full of adult business, who like you say can
pay.
Hmm, I've never even seen the politics list. Maybe I should check it out...
hehe. Is anyone on it?
--Steve Szmidt
"For evil to triumph all that is needed is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees.
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