Re: [SLUG] Sites on IP

From: Paul M Foster (paulf@quillandmouse.com)
Date: Mon Apr 10 2006 - 15:10:58 EDT


Richard Morgan wrote:
> Quoting Paul M Foster <paulf@quillandmouse.com>:
>
>> Richard Morgan wrote:
>>
>> > Quoting Paul M Foster <paulf@quillandmouse.com>:
>> >
>> >> Two questions:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Since many sites can share the same IP, is there any way to tell
>> >> all the websites which share an IP?
>> >>
>> >> 2. Assuming you have a "reseller account" with a hosting company,
>> >> where they give you two IPs for your sites, is it possible or probable
>> >> that they have also given someone else those same IPs? Is this common
>> >> practice or not?
>> >>
>>
>>> Yes, it's very common to "oversell" IP's since they are such a
>>> precious thing,
>>> nowadays. You should be able to find all of the hosts on a given IP
>>> with
>>> reverse DNS and some commercial web hosting services, like whois.sc.
>>> Also,
>>> Netcraft may give you that information, too.
>>>
>>
>> Reverse DNS won't do it. I tried.
>>
>> Here's my understanding of how this works. Correct me if I'm wrong.
>> Let's say server alfa is the authoritative DNS server for 50 domains.
>> Its BIND tables show all the translations from sitename to IP. But a
>> DNS query supplies a sitename and asks for an IP. Alfa is glad to
>> oblige, but that query doesn't say anything about what *other* sites
>> share that IP. Now, I don't know much about how DNS works. I don't
>> know how those DNS tables are populated. Are there CNAME entries, A
>> entries, PTR entries for each site in the tables? But how would you
>> get a flush of those tables? Trying reverse DNS didn't do it. I'll
>> supply the IP offlist, if you like (I don't want that IP up on the
>> internet forever for people to hack).
>>
>> Whois.sc translates to domaintools.com. Their reverse DNS requires
>> membership.
>
>
>
> Sorry that I can't help you more - I use whois.sc for that purpose. You
> could
> also try http://www.dnsstuff.com/

Yeah, those are the guys I did reverse DNS with in the first place.

Paul

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