Re: [SLUG] eth1 or wlan1

From: Possum (vegetableblood@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Aug 08 2006 - 00:44:31 EDT


I think Eben's right. I'm running no ndiswrapper and I have eth1 not wlan0

On 8/7/06, Chuck Hast <wchast@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 8/7/06, Eben King <eben01@verizon.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chuck Hast wrote:
> >
> > > On 8/7/06, Eben King <eben01@verizon.net> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On 8/7/06, Eben King <eben01@verizon.net> wrote:
> > >> >> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > RF-mobile:/ # uname -r
> > >> >> > 2.6.16.13-4-default
> > >> >>
> > >> >> OK, you have a modified-by-your-distro kernel. If you didn't
> configure
> > >> >> and compile your kernel, someone else did. The only other person
> > >> >> (presumably) is your distro maintainer.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > RF-mobile:/ # find /usr/src/linux-`uname -r` -name \*.[ch] |
> xargs grep '"wlan"'
> > >> >> > find: /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.13-4-default: No such file or
> directory
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The kernel source isn't installed to /usr/src/linux-
> 2.6.16.13-4-default
> > >> ,
> > >> >> so find can't look there.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> What type of NICs are they? Are they using the kernel drivers, or
> > >> >> something like ndiswrapper?
> > >> >
> > >> > This is the funny part, the laptop (ibm T42) has drivers for the
> internal
> > >> > wifi card, and they load up just fine, it is the one that calls the
> wifi
> > >> > nic eth1 vice wlan something. My desktop which uses a PCI wireless
> card
> > >> > with the broad- com chips uses ndiswrapper, that one comes up as
> wlan0...
> > >> > The ibm uses a intel chipset.
> > >>
> > >> Hypothesis: wireless cards which get their drivers from ndiswrapper
> will get
> > >> the device "wlanX"
> > >>
> > >> Supporting evidence: your two machines, and my laptop
> > >>
> > >> > I guess I could install the kernel source, I am sure it is on the
> DVD
> > >> > somewhere. Just seems strange that on one machine the wireless
> piece is
> > >> > a eth device and on another one using the same OS it is a wlan
> > >> > device... Perhaps I am just picking nits here but it just does not
> look
> > >> > right...
> > >>
> > >> Probably easier would be to make the appropriate links and edits,
> without
> > >> recompiling squat. Actually easiest would be "deal with it", but
> that's
> > >> not going to happen.
> > >>
> > >> I swear modules.conf used to have an "alias eth0 foo" statement, but
> I
> > >> can't find it now.
> > >>
> > > OK, you are seeing the same thing,
> >
> > Actually I'm not, but then I'm not using ndiswrapper either. It's just
> that
> > those three machines fit the pattern of "ndiswrapper -> wlan, kernel ->
> > eth". If someone comes up with a machine which *doesn't* fit that
> pattern,
> > then that hypothesis is out the window.
> >
> > > sounds like it is a habit then. Just looks messy, I guess that is the
> > > price we pay for not having to deal with some of the stuff that you
> get
> > > with windows, like viruses, worms and other stupidity. At least it is
> more
> > > cosmetic.
> >
> > Well, if it is ndiswrapper that chooses the interface to be "wlanX", you
> > could edit the source and change it to whatever you want.
> >
> > > I guess the fix is a re-compile,
> >
> > Maybe of ndiswrapper only.
> >
> > > I was thinking that modules used to have the alias thing too.
> >
> > Maybe that was under 2.4.
> >
> I think I set a table of aliases up for a 2.4 machine. Have to look into
> it.
> maybe we will get some more info on it.
>
> --
> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT --
> To paraphrase my flight instructor;
> "the only dumb question is the one you DID NOT ask resulting in my going
> out and having to identify your bits and pieces in the midst of torn
> and twisted metal."
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