I was under the impression Boeing used a somewhat homegrown solution
because of the millions of parts they have. I don't remember the
name, but I recall it beginning with an "A." Any truth in that?
On 6/9/07, Ken Elliott <kelliott11@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> Mario wrote:
> >> So Rhino is good with CAD -> CAM too?
>
> Many consider Rhino's translation abilities to be the best of any CAD system
> on the market. In fact, when you save as an IGES file, you tell it what the
> target CAD system is so it can 'flavor' it. Boeing is the biggest Rhino
> customer, and a lot of Rhino's capabilities were driven by them and the ship
> building industry.
>
> We use GibbsCAM (very good), CAMworks (sucks!) and SurfCAM (very good).
>
> Ken Elliott
>
> =====================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of Mario Lombardo
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 1:22 PM
> To: slug@nks.net
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Real World Class 3D modeler for Linux
>
> So Rhino is good with CAD -> CAM too? I've recently been on the hunt for
> such a thing. I've never heard of Rhino. The other day, I found
> this:
> http://www.alibre.com/promos/online/free-cad.asp
>
> I know nothing about it.
>
>
>
> On 6/8/07, Ken Elliott <kelliott11@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> > >> If you can design tanks with it you can design anything with it.
> >
> > Far from it. Tanks are simple geometry. Streight edges, flat sides, etc.
> > Items with smooth curved surfaces are much more difficult. Think car
> > bodies, boats, consumer goods.
> >
> > Compare the Stealth Figher vs. the B2 Stealth Bommer. The figher is
> > all flat sides due to the limitations of the software and cpu
> > horsepower used at the time. NURBS and fast computers allowed for the
> > complex calculations required for a complex curved surfaces.
> >
> > But if you disagree, that's fine. I've only been using CAD systems
> > for 25 years and I could be wrong...
> >
> > Ken Elliott
> >
> > =====================
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of SOTL
> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 10:16 AM
> > To: slug@nks.net
> > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Real World Class 3D modeler for Linux
> >
> > If you can design tanks with it you can design anything with it.
> > http://ftp.brlcad.org/VolumeIII-Principles_of_Effective_Modeling.pdf
> > http://www.brlcad.org/reports/arl-tr-315/index.html
> > http://www.brlcad.org/reports/arl-mr-103/index.html
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRL-CAD
> > http://brlcad.survice.com/mirror/BRLCAD/ftp.arl.army.mil/brlcad/preGPL
> > /galle
> > ry/index.html
> > http://ftp.arl.mil/brlcad/preGPL/gallery/hst_caption.html
> >
> >
> > I have looked extensively but there are 3 BRI-CAD web sites. Two I
> > found but it is the third that will answer your questions about
> > modeling. I can not find the site since the home site was changed or
> updated if you will.
> >
> > SOTL
> >
> > On Thursday 07 June 2007 19:27, Ken Elliott wrote:
> > > >> Try this
> > > >> http://www.brlcad.org/
> > >
> > > Too limited. It might be a great product for some, but for any
> > > professional it would be far to limited.
> > >
> > > CSG modelers like BriCAD simply cannot model at the same level as a
> > > good NURBS modeler, like Rhino. CSG modelers construct the model by
> > > combining several simple geometric shapes. Modeling a ball in a CSG
> > > modeler would be constructed of many triangles. Too few and the
> > > surface would have flat spots like a diamond. Too may and the file
> > > size gets extremely large. A CSG modeler would be suitable for a
> > > house, since it's mostly a series of boxes (walls), but it is nearly
> > > impossible to create an egg carton or modern car body. NURBS (when
> > > properly done) give you the ability to control the model shape with
> > > control handles. Rhino is like modeling clay, yet it's fast and the
> > > file size is tiny. Comparing the two is like comparing a modern
> > > Linux distro with Windows 1.0. To the casual user, they may look
> > > somewhat alike, but under the hood they couldn't be more different.
> > >
> > > On Linux, tools like PTC's ProEngineer have capabilities far beyond
> > > anything free or low cost. Rhino won't do everything ProE does, but
> > > it can do some things that ProE can't. Rhino is used by some F1
> > > teams for modeling their aero parts. Nuff said.
> > >
> > > Ken Elliott
> > >
> > > =====================
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of SOTL
> > > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 5:08 PM
> > > To: slug@nks.net
> > > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Real World Class 3D modeler for Linux
> > >
> > > On Thursday 07 June 2007 17:53, Ken Elliott wrote:
> > > > No, it's not FOSS or Open Source, but Rhino is a fantastic
> > > > world-class CAD package. The producer (Robert McNeel and
> > > > Associates) seems to be probing to see if there is an interest in
> > > > a Linux version. For designers like me, this type of tool is one
> > > > of the last reasons I've had to keep a few Windows boxes around.
> > > > McNeel has a Mac port in beta, so a Linux version might not be too
> hard.
> > > >
> > > > Product: http://www.rhino3d.com/
> > > >
> > > > Vote here:
> > > > http://offbroadway.blogspot.com/2007/06/rhino-for-mac-os-x.html
> > > >
> > > > No, it's not free, but compared to the $4,000 to $10,000 price tag
> > > > of most CAD packages, Rhino's $995 price is rather reasonable.
> > > >
> > > > Ken Elliott
> > >
> > > Try this
> > >
> > > http://www.brlcad.org/
> > >
> > > SOTL
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