From owner-slug-politics-track29 Sat Dec 1 00:05:28 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id AAA20339 for slug-politics-track29; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 00:05:28 -0500 Received: from homer.nks.net (homer.nks.net [216.139.204.172]) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA20336 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 00:05:27 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by homer.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00958 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 00:05:27 -0500 Received: from worldnet.att.net ([12.77.143.199]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20011201050456.CQX15547.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 05:04:56 +0000 Message-ID: <3C0865A0.6D6672F3@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 00:07:44 -0500 From: "Maureen L. Thomas" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.8-34.1mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Slug_Politics Subject: [SLUG-POL] Off Topic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: slug-politics@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug-politics This was too good to pass on. WARNING: > > Read this warning > If you receive an e-mail entitled "Badtimes," delete it immediately. > Do not open it. Apparently, this one is pretty nasty. It will not only > erase everything on your hard drive, but it will also delete anything > on disks within 20 feet of your computer. > > It demagnetizes the stripes on all your credit cards. > It reprograms your ATM access code, screws up the tracking on your VCR > and uses subspace field harmonics to scratch any CD's you attempt to > play. > If you drive a Ford, it will start missing like a Chevy. It will program > > your phone auto dial to call only your mother-in-law's number. 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Thomas" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.8-34.1mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SLUG , Slug_Politics Subject: [SLUG-POL] Merry Christmas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: slug-politics@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug-politics I hope everyone has a Very Loving, Happy, Peacefull Christmas. Maureen From owner-slug-politics-track29 Mon Dec 24 22:24:25 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id WAA08970 for slug-politics-track29; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:24:25 -0500 Received: from homer.nks.net (homer.nks.net [216.139.204.172]) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA08967 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:24:25 -0500 Received: from goliath.cnchost.com (goliath.cnchost.com [207.155.252.47]) by homer.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02084 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:24:17 -0500 Received: from quillandmouse.com (tamqfl1-ar4-076-029.tamqfl1.dsl.gtei.net [4.41.76.29]) by goliath.cnchost.com id WAA26850; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:23:43 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.14] Received: from paulf by quillandmouse.com with local (Exim 3.32 #1) id 16IiN5-0003F0-00 for slug-politics@nks.net; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:35:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:35:14 -0500 From: Paul M Foster To: slug-politics@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG-POL] Merry Christmas Message-ID: <20011224223514.C12211@quillandmouse.com> Mail-Followup-To: Paul M Foster , slug-politics@nks.net References: <3C272BDF.EF4EDBC@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C272BDF.EF4EDBC@worldnet.att.net>; from elgato513@worldnet.att.net on Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 08:21:35AM -0500 Sender: slug-politics@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug-politics On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 08:21:35AM -0500, Maureen L. Thomas wrote: > I hope everyone has a Very Loving, Happy, Peacefull Christmas. Maureen Since it's very important to be politically correct on this list, I'd like to wish everyone a reasonably cheerful, non-religious or religion-neutral holiday.* Paul * Nothing in this email shall be construed to promote or suggest the advocacy of any particular religion or religion in general. Likewise, nothing in this email shall be construed to suggest or promote an observance of any particular religious or non-religious holiday. Nor shall secular holidays be preferred over ecclesiastical holidays for the purpose of this email. Should the wishing of cheerfulness to a reasonable degree be considered objectionable, it shall be understood that emotions exclusive of cheerfulness shall be tolerable as well. The author does not wish to cause emotional distress in any form by the issuance of this email, and consequently shall be held harmless in connection with written or spoken utterances regarding holidays in general or any particular holiday, religious or secular. The authors of Mutt, Exim and Sendmail shall not be held liable for any damages, consequential or otherwise, as a result of the reading or issuance of this email. XO Communications, Verizon and NKS shall likewise not be held liable for problems of self-esteem, bandwidth use, or religious preference arising from this email. From owner-slug-politics-track29 Mon Dec 24 22:44:29 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id WAA09031 for slug-politics-track29; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:44:29 -0500 Received: from homer.nks.net (homer.nks.net [216.139.204.172]) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA09028 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:44:29 -0500 Received: from blue01.bluecrabtech.com (bdsl.66.12.50.54.gte.net [66.12.50.54]) by homer.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02102 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:44:28 -0500 Received: from blue04 (24161227hfc203.tampabay.rr.com [24.161.227.203]) by blue01-eth1.bluecrabtech.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id fBP3f3r00454 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:41:03 -0500 From: "Michael K. Dittmeier" To: Subject: RE: [SLUG-POL] Merry Christmas Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:42:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20011224223514.C12211@quillandmouse.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: slug-politics@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug-politics nice way to spoil the mood! Mike Dittmeier -----Original Message----- From: slug-politics@nks.net [mailto:slug-politics@nks.net]On Behalf Of Paul M Foster Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 10:35 PM To: slug-politics@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG-POL] Merry Christmas On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 08:21:35AM -0500, Maureen L. Thomas wrote: > I hope everyone has a Very Loving, Happy, Peacefull Christmas. Maureen Since it's very important to be politically correct on this list, I'd like to wish everyone a reasonably cheerful, non-religious or religion-neutral holiday.* Paul * Nothing in this email shall be construed to promote or suggest the advocacy of any particular religion or religion in general. Likewise, nothing in this email shall be construed to suggest or promote an observance of any particular religious or non-religious holiday. Nor shall secular holidays be preferred over ecclesiastical holidays for the purpose of this email. Should the wishing of cheerfulness to a reasonable degree be considered objectionable, it shall be understood that emotions exclusive of cheerfulness shall be tolerable as well. The author does not wish to cause emotional distress in any form by the issuance of this email, and consequently shall be held harmless in connection with written or spoken utterances regarding holidays in general or any particular holiday, religious or secular. The authors of Mutt, Exim and Sendmail shall not be held liable for any damages, consequential or otherwise, as a result of the reading or issuance of this email. XO Communications, Verizon and NKS shall likewise not be held liable for problems of self-esteem, bandwidth use, or religious preference arising from this email. From owner-slug-politics-track29 Tue Dec 25 01:06:00 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id BAA09371 for slug-politics-track29; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 01:06:00 -0500 Received: from homer.nks.net (homer.nks.net [216.139.204.172]) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA09368 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 01:06:00 -0500 Received: from smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.cfl.rr.com [65.32.2.68]) by homer.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02308 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 01:05:59 -0500 Received: from there (242857hfc125.tampabay.rr.com [24.28.57.125]) by smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id fBP65TO14309 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 01:05:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200112250605.fBP65TO14309@smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jim To: slug-politics@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG-POL] Merry Christmas Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 01:02:03 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <3C272BDF.EF4EDBC@worldnet.att.net> <20011224223514.C12211@quillandmouse.com> In-Reply-To: <20011224223514.C12211@quillandmouse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: slug-politics@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug-politics Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all;" plus "a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great, (not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country or is the only "AMERICA" in the western hemisphere), and without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, sexual preference of the wisher or choice of *computer platform*. " -- plagiarized by Jim (Disclaimer: By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms. This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for her/himself or others, and is void where prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher who assumes no responsibility for any unintended emotional stress these greetings may bring to those not caught up in the holiday spirit.) * actually 'computer platform' should be replaced with 'Linux disro' ;) > On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 08:21:35AM -0500, Maureen L. Thomas wrote: > > I hope everyone has a Very Loving, Happy, Peacefull Christmas. Maureen > > Since it's very important to be politically correct on this list, I'd > like to wish everyone a reasonably cheerful, non-religious or > religion-neutral holiday.* > > Paul > > * Nothing in this email shall be construed to promote or suggest the > advocacy of any particular religion or religion in general. Likewise, > nothing in this email shall be construed to suggest or promote an > observance of any particular religious or non-religious holiday. Nor > shall secular holidays be preferred over ecclesiastical holidays for the > purpose of this email. Should the wishing of cheerfulness to a > reasonable degree be considered objectionable, it shall be understood > that emotions exclusive of cheerfulness shall be tolerable as well. The > author does not wish to cause emotional distress in any form by the > issuance of this email, and consequently shall be held harmless in > connection with written or spoken utterances regarding holidays in > general or any particular holiday, religious or secular. The authors of > Mutt, Exim and Sendmail shall not be held liable for any damages, > consequential or otherwise, as a result of the reading or issuance of > this email. XO Communications, Verizon and NKS shall likewise not be > held liable for problems of self-esteem, bandwidth use, or religious > preference arising from this email. From owner-slug-politics-track29 Thu Dec 27 14:59:22 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id OAA19252 for slug-politics-track29; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:59:22 -0500 Received: from homer.nks.net (homer.nks.net [216.139.204.172]) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA19249 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:59:22 -0500 Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by homer.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA12988 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:59:21 -0500 Received: from 653269hfc64.tampabay.rr.com (HELO yahoo.com) (65.32.69.64) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2001 19:58:51 -0000 Message-ID: <3C2B7BAE.8060204@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:51:10 -0500 From: Norbert Cartagena User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011126 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: slug-politics@nks.net Subject: [SLUG-POL] Battle of the Bots? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: slug-politics@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug-politics Just saw this on Slashdot and thought it might make for fun conversation: ----------- OK, so who kicks whose ass? The Terminator vs. the Daleks? Gandalf vs. Darth Maul? The Borg vs. The Empire from Star Wars Episode 4? (Assume that the Borg do not simply assimilate Luke.) Robotic Buffy vs. Oasis? Batman vs. Spider Man? Bruce Lee vs. Jackie Chan? ------------------ Any takers? Norb _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-slug-politics-track29 Thu Dec 27 18:15:59 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id SAA19966 for slug-politics-track29; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:15:59 -0500 Received: from homer.nks.net (homer.nks.net [216.139.204.172]) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA19963 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:15:59 -0500 Received: from glatton.cnchost.com (glatton.cnchost.com [207.155.248.47]) by homer.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13639 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:15:58 -0500 Received: from quillandmouse.com (tamqfl1-ar4-076-029.tamqfl1.dsl.gtei.net [4.41.76.29]) by glatton.cnchost.com id SAA10126; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:15:27 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.14] Received: from paulf by quillandmouse.com with local (Exim 3.32 #1) id 16JjkE-0007ot-00 for slug-politics@nks.net; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:15:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:15:14 -0500 From: Paul M Foster To: slug-politics@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG-POL] Battle of the Bots? Message-ID: <20011227181513.C29174@quillandmouse.com> Mail-Followup-To: Paul M Foster , slug-politics@nks.net References: <3C2B7BAE.8060204@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C2B7BAE.8060204@yahoo.com>; from niccademous@yahoo.com on Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 02:51:10PM -0500 Sender: slug-politics@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug-politics On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 02:51:10PM -0500, Norbert Cartagena wrote: > Just saw this on Slashdot and thought it might make for fun conversation: > ----------- > OK, so who kicks whose ass? > > The Borg vs. The Empire from Star Wars Episode 4? (Assume > that the Borg do not simply assimilate Luke.) The Borg. They adapt much better than the Empire. > Batman vs. Spider Man? Spiderman. Batman has no special powers. > > Bruce Lee vs. Jackie Chan? > Jackie Chan. Bruce Lee would be exhausted just watching Jackie move. BTW Alien would also kick the Terminator's ass. Acid for blood, okay? Paul From owner-slug-politics-track29 Thu Dec 27 18:38:58 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id SAA20041 for slug-politics-track29; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:38:58 -0500 Received: from homer.nks.net (homer.nks.net [216.139.204.172]) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA20038 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:38:58 -0500 Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by homer.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA13676 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:38:57 -0500 Received: from 653269hfc64.tampabay.rr.com (HELO yahoo.com) (65.32.69.64) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2001 23:38:26 -0000 Message-ID: <3C2BAEDE.9090109@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:29:34 -0500 From: Norbert Cartagena User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011126 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: slug-politics@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG-POL] Battle of the Bots? References: <3C2B7BAE.8060204@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: slug-politics@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug-politics (Figured I'd wait 'wtill someone answered for me to answer) > OK, so who kicks whose ass? > > The Terminator vs. the Daleks? Who are the Daleks? > > Gandalf vs. Darth Maul? > Gandalf. Darth Maul was handy with a stick, but c'mon, this is like putting a run-of-the-mill ranger against Fizban (DragonLance). > The Borg vs. The Empire from Star Wars Episode 4? (Assume that > the Borg do not simply assimilate Luke.) > The Borg, though in a 1 on 1 match, Vader would eat a battalion of Borg for breakfast. > Robotic Buffy vs. Oasis Robotic buffy. Who's Oasis? The band? > Batman vs. Spider Man? > Going out on a limb here, Batman. Spiderman, yes, nice, superpowers, blah blah. Batman is good at finding weakneses and adapting to his environment faster than his opponent. Batman by a country mile. > Bruce Lee vs. Jackie Chan? > > Given that Chan was an underscore for Lee, I'd say lee, but not by much anymore, though Jackie cahn is more enjoyable to watch - you gotta love a guy who demands that his acion dolls are smiling! Norb _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-slug-politics-track29 Thu Dec 27 21:47:04 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id VAA20582 for slug-politics-track29; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:47:04 -0500 Received: from homer.nks.net (homer.nks.net [216.139.204.172]) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA20579 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:47:03 -0500 Received: from goliath.cnchost.com (goliath.cnchost.com [207.155.252.47]) by homer.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14102 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:47:03 -0500 Received: from quillandmouse.com (tamqfl1-ar4-076-029.tamqfl1.dsl.gtei.net [4.41.76.29]) by goliath.cnchost.com id VAA28746; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:46:32 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.14] Received: from paulf by quillandmouse.com with local (Exim 3.32 #1) id 16Jn2U-0008Ig-00 for slug-politics@nks.net; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:46:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:46:18 -0500 From: Paul M Foster To: slug-politics@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG-POL] Battle of the Bots? Message-ID: <20011227214618.A31885@quillandmouse.com> Mail-Followup-To: Paul M Foster , slug-politics@nks.net References: <3C2B7BAE.8060204@yahoo.com> <3C2BAEDE.9090109@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C2BAEDE.9090109@yahoo.com>; from niccademous@yahoo.com on Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 06:29:34PM -0500 Sender: slug-politics@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug-politics On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 06:29:34PM -0500, Norbert Cartagena wrote: > (Figured I'd wait 'wtill someone answered for me to answer) > > > OK, so who kicks whose ass? > > > > The Terminator vs. the Daleks? > > > Who are the Daleks? > Something with Dr. Who? I never watched the show because I thought Dr. Who was a stupid at Space 1999. (Sorry all you Who fans.) > > > > > Gandalf vs. Darth Maul? > > > > > Gandalf. Darth Maul was handy with a stick, but c'mon, this is like > putting a run-of-the-mill ranger against Fizban (DragonLance). > What's a Fizban. But I agree. Gandalf's a wizard, let's face it. > > > The Borg vs. The Empire from Star Wars Episode 4? (Assume that > > the Borg do not simply assimilate Luke.) > > > > > The Borg, though in a 1 on 1 match, Vader would eat a battalion of Borg > for breakfast. > Not on his best day. > > > Robotic Buffy vs. Oasis > > > Robotic buffy. Who's Oasis? The band? > > > > Batman vs. Spider Man? > > > > > Going out on a limb here, Batman. Spiderman, yes, nice, superpowers, > blah blah. Batman is good at finding weakneses and adapting to his > environment faster than his opponent. Batman by a country mile. > Spidey'd have him webbed before he could get his Bat-pocket-knife out of his Bat-utility-belt. > > > Bruce Lee vs. Jackie Chan? > > > > > > > Given that Chan was an underscore for Lee, I'd say lee, but not by much ^^^^^^^^^^ you mean, understudy? > anymore, though Jackie cahn is more enjoyable to watch - you gotta love > a guy who demands that his acion dolls are smiling! > Didn't know that, but it makes sense. Paul From owner-slug-politics-track29 Thu Dec 27 22:24:10 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id WAA20683 for slug-politics-track29; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 22:24:10 -0500 Received: from homer.nks.net (homer.nks.net [216.139.204.172]) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA20680 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 22:24:10 -0500 Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by homer.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA14159 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 22:24:09 -0500 Received: from 653269hfc64.tampabay.rr.com (HELO yahoo.com) (65.32.69.64) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2001 03:23:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3C2BE363.7050500@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 22:13:39 -0500 From: Norbert Cartagena User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011126 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: slug-politics@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG-POL] Battle of the Bots? References: <3C2B7BAE.8060204@yahoo.com> <3C2BAEDE.9090109@yahoo.com> <20011227214618.A31885@quillandmouse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: slug-politics@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug-politics >>> Gandalf vs. Darth Maul? >>> >>> >> >>Gandalf. Darth Maul was handy with a stick, but c'mon, this is like >>putting a run-of-the-mill ranger against Fizban (DragonLance). >> >> > > What's a Fizban. But I agree. Gandalf's a wizard, let's face it. Fizban is (was?) a re-occuring character in the books of Margarett Weis and Tracy Hickman (specifically in their "DragonLance" series - I was actually just looking at a book with him and Tasslehoff as the main characters). He's also known as Nabzif (Deathgate Cycle) and has a habit of jumping dimentions. Pretty powerful wizard - could take Gandalf, but most likely would simply take him out to lunch - if he could remember his own name. He was VERY fond of the Kender Tas(selhoff) (the kender are halflings with eternal wonderlust - where a rat wouldn't go, two kender will be). "Fizzbutt, Fizzle, Furball... What is it that you people called me again?" > >>> The Borg vs. The Empire from Star Wars Episode 4? (Assume that >>>the Borg do not simply assimilate Luke.) >>> >>> >> >>The Borg, though in a 1 on 1 match, Vader would eat a battalion of Borg >>for breakfast. >> >> > > Not on his best day Think about it - the force and a light saber. We already saw how he deflected shots aimed at him (with a light saber!), and I'd like to see a borg even get close enough to try to assimilate him. So they can't kill him by shooting and they can't get close. Looks like they're out-gunned. Besides, if a couple of Trekkie weenies in Star Fleet pajamas can take an entire ship out by blowing up a couple of light bulbs, a Jedi android can probably handle them well enough - provided we're not talking about battalions of ships, just foot soldiers (shipwise, the Borg can't be beat - unless you have a few Trekkie Weenies in Star Fleet pajamas taking out their light bulbs). >> >>> Batman vs. Spider Man? >>> >>> >> >>Going out on a limb here, Batman. Spiderman, yes, nice, superpowers, >>blah blah. Batman is good at finding weakneses and adapting to his >>environment faster than his opponent. Batman by a country mile. >> >> > > Spidey'd have him webbed before he could get his Bat-pocket-knife out of > his Bat-utility-belt. Think again - the web wouldn't touch him before the Bat dissapeared. Hey, if the guy can knock out Superman, he can knock out Spidey. Besides, doesn't he know - like - the death touch or something? > >>> Bruce Lee vs. Jackie Chan? >>> >>> >>> >> >>Given that Chan was an underscore for Lee, I'd say lee, but not by much >> > ^^^^^^^^^^ you mean, understudy? D'OH!!!!!!! And THAT was even wrong. He wasn't an understudy, he was a "replacement" for Lee after his death (man, that'd be like replacing Clint Eastwood with a guy called Clint Westwood...) > >>anymore, though Jackie cahn is more enjoyable to watch - you gotta love >>a guy who demands that his acion dolls are smiling! >> >> > > Didn't know that, but it makes sense. > Go to Toys'R Us or Walmart and check out the Jacie Chan dolls. Kicking ass and being a nice guy - you don't get better than that. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-slug-politics-track29 Fri Dec 28 00:34:45 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id AAA21059 for slug-politics-track29; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 00:34:45 -0500 Received: from homer.nks.net (homer.nks.net [216.139.204.172]) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA21056 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 00:34:44 -0500 Received: from sheffield.cnchost.com (sheffield.concentric.net [207.155.252.12]) by homer.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA14434 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 00:34:44 -0500 Received: from quillandmouse.com (tamqfl1-ar4-076-029.tamqfl1.dsl.gtei.net [4.41.76.29]) by sheffield.cnchost.com id AAA06968; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 00:34:12 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.14] Received: from paulf by quillandmouse.com with local (Exim 3.32 #1) id 16Jpem-0008Uh-00 for slug-politics@nks.net; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 00:34:12 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 00:34:05 -0500 From: Paul M Foster To: slug-politics@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG-POL] Battle of the Bots? Message-ID: <20011228003405.A32608@quillandmouse.com> Mail-Followup-To: Paul M Foster , slug-politics@nks.net References: <3C2B7BAE.8060204@yahoo.com> <3C2BAEDE.9090109@yahoo.com> <20011227214618.A31885@quillandmouse.com> <3C2BE363.7050500@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C2BE363.7050500@yahoo.com>; from niccademous@yahoo.com on Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 10:13:39PM -0500 Sender: slug-politics@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug-politics On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 10:13:39PM -0500, Norbert Cartagena wrote: > >>> The Borg vs. The Empire from Star Wars Episode 4? (Assume that > >>>the Borg do not simply assimilate Luke.) > >> > >>The Borg, though in a 1 on 1 match, Vader would eat a battalion of Borg > >>for breakfast. > > > > Not on his best day > > Think about it - the force and a light saber. We already saw how he > deflected shots aimed at him (with a light saber!), and I'd like to see > a borg even get close enough to try to assimilate him. So they can't > kill him by shooting and they can't get close. Looks like they're > out-gunned. Besides, if a couple of Trekkie weenies in Star Fleet > pajamas can take an entire ship out by blowing up a couple of light > bulbs, a Jedi android can probably handle them well enough - provided > we're not talking about battalions of ships, just foot soldiers > (shipwise, the Borg can't be beat - unless you have a few Trekkie > Weenies in Star Fleet pajamas taking out their light bulbs). > Well, you don't get _a_ Borg or _a few_ Borg. It's the whole damn collective, or at least one Borg cube. > >>> Batman vs. Spider Man? > >> > >>Going out on a limb here, Batman. Spiderman, yes, nice, superpowers, > >>blah blah. Batman is good at finding weakneses and adapting to his > >>environment faster than his opponent. Batman by a country mile. > >> > >> > > > > Spidey'd have him webbed before he could get his Bat-pocket-knife out of > > his Bat-utility-belt. > > Think again - the web wouldn't touch him before the Bat dissapeared. > Hey, if the guy can knock out Superman, he can knock out Spidey. > Besides, doesn't he know - like - the death touch or something? Batman knocked out Superman?! Oh yeah, I see now-- that's DC comics, not Marvel. That explains it. I never read DC comics. I was exclusively a Marvel fan. Not that DC completely sucked or anything.... ;-} Paul BTW, if you love this kind of banter, you should check out a little comic sold in gaming stores called "Knights of the Dinner Table", all about the geeks who play D&D and games like that. It's hilarious. Those guys argue heatedly about the most inane stuff. Kind of like the geeks who argue heatedly about the virtues of vi versus emacs. (Especially goofy in light of the fact the jed is clearly the best.) From owner-slug-politics-track29 Fri Dec 28 02:18:07 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id CAA21330 for slug-politics-track29; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 02:18:07 -0500 Received: from homer.nks.net (homer.nks.net [216.139.204.172]) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA21327 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 02:18:06 -0500 Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by homer.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA14678 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 02:18:06 -0500 Received: from 653269hfc64.tampabay.rr.com (HELO yahoo.com) (65.32.69.64) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2001 07:17:35 -0000 Message-ID: <3C2C19F0.9080708@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 02:06:24 -0500 From: Norbert Cartagena User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011126 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: slug-politics@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG-POL] Battle of the Bots? References: <3C2B7BAE.8060204@yahoo.com> <3C2BAEDE.9090109@yahoo.com> <20011227214618.A31885@quillandmouse.com> <3C2BE363.7050500@yahoo.com> <20011228003405.A32608@quillandmouse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: slug-politics@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug-politics >>>>> The Borg vs. The Empire from Star Wars Episode 4? (Assume that >>>>>the Borg do not simply assimilate Luke.) >>>>> >>>>The Borg, though in a 1 on 1 match, Vader would eat a battalion of Borg >>>>for breakfast. >>>> >>>Not on his best day >>> >>Think about it - the force and a light saber. We already saw how he >>deflected shots aimed at him (with a light saber!), and I'd like to see >>a borg even get close enough to try to assimilate him. So they can't >>kill him by shooting and they can't get close. Looks like they're >>out-gunned. Besides, if a couple of Trekkie weenies in Star Fleet >>pajamas can take an entire ship out by blowing up a couple of light >>bulbs, a Jedi android can probably handle them well enough - provided >>we're not talking about battalions of ships, just foot soldiers >>(shipwise, the Borg can't be beat - unless you have a few Trekkie >>Weenies in Star Fleet pajamas taking out their light bulbs). >> >> > > Well, you don't get _a_ Borg or _a few_ Borg. It's the whole damn > collective, or at least one Borg cube. > > Yeah, but even they have "search parties." >>>>> Batman vs. Spider Man? >>>>> >>>>Going out on a limb here, Batman. Spiderman, yes, nice, superpowers, >>>>blah blah. Batman is good at finding weakneses and adapting to his >>>>environment faster than his opponent. Batman by a country mile. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Spidey'd have him webbed before he could get his Bat-pocket-knife out of >>>his Bat-utility-belt. >>> >>Think again - the web wouldn't touch him before the Bat dissapeared. >>Hey, if the guy can knock out Superman, he can knock out Spidey. >>Besides, doesn't he know - like - the death touch or something? >> > > Batman knocked out Superman?! Oh yeah, I see now-- that's DC comics, not > Marvel. That explains it. I never read DC comics. I was exclusively a > Marvel fan. Not that DC completely sucked or anything.... ;-} > Actually, I cheated - it was the WB cartoon version (you know, the same one where the Flash raced Superman - and, of course, lost?). > Paul > > BTW, if you love this kind of banter, you should check out a little > comic sold in gaming stores called "Knights of the Dinner Table", all > about the geeks who play D&D and games like that. It's hilarious. Those > guys argue heatedly about the most inane stuff. Kind of like the geeks > who argue heatedly about the virtues of vi versus emacs. (Especially > goofy in light of the fact the jed is clearly the best.) Yeah, I've read KotDT - AWESOME comic. Speaking of which, I think it's about time to pick up a copy at Merlin's... And as for jed, never tried it. I use both vi and emacs. Each has its function. Vi when you have to and Emacs whenever you can. Just stick a kernel under that emacs and watch it run itself. Anyways, time to work. Gee, I love my schedule... Norb _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-slug-politics-track29 Fri Dec 28 07:16:52 2001 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id HAA22308 for slug-politics-track29; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:16:52 -0500 Received: from homer.nks.net (homer.nks.net [216.139.204.172]) by bart.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id HAA22305 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:16:51 -0500 Received: from fourier.mat (242829hfc118.tampabay.rr.com [24.28.29.118]) by homer.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15593 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:16:51 -0500 Received: from fourier.mat (localhost.mat [127.0.0.1]) by fourier.mat (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fBSCDfY6002485 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:13:41 -0500 Received: (from billt@localhost) by fourier.mat (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) id fBSCDfGX002483 for slug-politics@nks.net; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:13:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:13:41 -0500 From: Bill Triplett To: slug-politics@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG-POL] Battle of the Bots? Message-ID: <20011228121341.GA2226@fourier.mat> References: <3C2B7BAE.8060204@yahoo.com> <3C2BAEDE.9090109@yahoo.com> <20011227214618.A31885@quillandmouse.com> <3C2BE363.7050500@yahoo.com> <20011228003405.A32608@quillandmouse.com> <3C2C19F0.9080708@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C2C19F0.9080708@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: slug-politics@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug-politics As for Terminator Vs. Daleks... The Terminator's success really depends on where he is at the time. He has no ranged weapon. The Daleks do, but as I remember it... it's killing power/effects varies from show to show -- sometimes killing, sometimes dissolving, sometimes only wounding, always painful as hell though. So if the showdown is set in some urban area where Terminator has access to motorcycles, gas trucks, survivalist shops, and lumpy terrain then the terminator will definately win against a squad of Daleks. They are slow and their movements are really predictable, and they are pretty noisy, esp. when they get talking about Exterminating stuff. Picture here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/alien/daleks.shtml