From owner-slug-track29 Sat Aug 1 00:10:15 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n714AFK9024659 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:10:15 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n714AF3J024656 for slug-track29; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:10:15 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n714AEdD024652 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:10:14 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx228.postini.com [74.125.149.112]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n714ACQx018341 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:10:13 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.218.219]) by na3sys009amx228.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:10:14 PDT Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so1756935bwz.13 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:10:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.150.6 with SMTP id l6mr380862hbb.47.1249099811427; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:10:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200907311747.13892.vzd1s11k@verizon.net> References: <20090729021443.GT14822@quillandmouse.com> <200907301519.26909.vzd1s11k@verizon.net> <2d9aa67f0907310902o692a1a68ja39718879cc93fac@mail.gmail.com> <200907311747.13892.vzd1s11k@verizon.net> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:10:11 -0400 Message-ID: <2d9aa67f0907312110i19e60a8aje2ae0ded7fee0a15@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SLUG] (FWD) Re: Florida Linux Show 2009 From: Dylan Hardison To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [17/1] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by slug-list-00.nks.net id n714AEdC024653 Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Joe Brandt wrote: > On Friday 31 July 2009 12:02:05 pm you wrote: >> Hey Joe, I believe I rode with you for software freedom day back in '06. >> > I remember.  If you can make it to and from the I-75 area, I will pick you up. should be doable. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). 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From owner-slug-track29 Sat Aug 1 00:11:01 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n714B13w024784 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:11:01 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n714B1M8024781 for slug-track29; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:11:01 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n714B0av024766 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:11:00 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx238.postini.com [74.125.149.122]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n714Awt0018613 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:10:59 -0400 Received: from source ([216.180.234.5]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009amx238.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:10:59 MST Received: from pool-71-180-158-206.tampfl.fios.verizon.net ([71.180.158.206]:42455 helo=sherman.mars.lan) by haylee.gendns10.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MX5vt-0004Gi-TH for slug@nks.net; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:10:57 -0400 Received: by sherman.mars.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2E64356F02; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:10:55 -0400 From: Paul M Foster To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Mac OS X to NFS connection Message-ID: <20090801041055.GD14822@quillandmouse.com> Mail-Followup-To: slug@nks.net References: <20090731152704.GB14822@quillandmouse.com> <4A7324D6.5050505@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A7324D6.5050505@verizon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - haylee.gendns10.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - nks.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - quillandmouse.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [17/1] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 01:07:34PM -0400, Pete Theisen wrote: > Paul M Foster wrote: >> This is kinda off topic, but if someone has experience connecting from >> Mac OS X (Leopard) to Linux NFS shares and Windows SMB shares, I'd like >> some assistance. I've googled this topic, but the procedures I find are >> not working. Reply offlist > > Hi Paul, > > Then only you and the guys who tell you will know how? It seems to me > that everyone who uses Linux has to deal with those who don't. This is going the *other* way-- connecting from Mac to Windows and Linux. Paul -- Paul M. Foster ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Sat Aug 1 01:01:07 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n71517AW031816 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 01:01:07 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n71517IB031813 for slug-track29; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 01:01:07 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7151662031809 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 01:01:06 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx209.postini.com [74.125.149.49]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n715141C029148 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 01:01:05 -0400 Received: from source ([216.180.234.5]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009amx209.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:01:05 EDT Received: from pool-71-180-158-206.tampfl.fios.verizon.net ([71.180.158.206]:49183 helo=sherman.mars.lan) by haylee.gendns10.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MX6iN-0006dS-0A for slug@nks.net; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:01:03 -0400 Received: by sherman.mars.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4FA7411F767; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 01:01:01 -0400 (EDT) To: slug@nks.net From: paulf@quillandmouse.com Subject: [SLUG] Mailing List Policies Message-Id: <20090801050101.4FA7411F767@sherman.mars.lan> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 01:01:01 -0400 (EDT) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - haylee.gendns10.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - nks.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - quillandmouse.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:35.73284/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.5390 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [17/1] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net MAILING LIST POLICIES ===================== Revised 2006-02-01 R3.0 ----------------------------------------------------- CONTENT WE ACCEPT (IN ORDER OF DECREASING BANDWIDTH): ----------------------------------------------------- 1) Technical (Linux or computer-related) questions and answers. 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From owner-slug-track29 Sun Aug 2 22:55:25 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n732tPDa027765 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:55:25 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n732tPsb027762 for slug-track29; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:55:25 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n732tP42027758 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:55:25 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx227.postini.com [74.125.149.111]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n732tNIx022417 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:55:24 -0400 Received: from source ([216.180.234.5]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009amx227.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:55:24 PDT Received: from pool-71-180-158-206.tampfl.fios.verizon.net ([71.180.158.206]:35691 helo=sherman.mars.lan) by haylee.gendns10.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MXnhr-0004lN-8L; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:55:23 -0400 Received: by sherman.mars.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9540456F02; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:55:20 -0400 (EDT) To: slug@nks.net, slug-announce@nks.net, cola@stump.algebra.com Subject: [SLUG] Suncoast LUG Meetings Message-Id: <20090803025520.9540456F02@sherman.mars.lan> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:55:20 -0400 (EDT) From: paulf@quillandmouse.com (Paul M Foster) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - haylee.gendns10.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - nks.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - quillandmouse.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S: 5.68633/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [17/1] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net ************************************* * Suncoast Linux Users Group (SLUG) * * Meeting Schedule * ************************************* TAMPA **************************************************** 11 August 19:00-21:00 Tampa (Usually Tuesday, usually first half of month) Hillsborough Community College Dale Mabry Campus Technology Bldg, Rm 426 4001 Tampa Bay Blvd Tampa, FL See http://www.hccfl.edu/pollock/Docs/DM-Map.htm for directions. *********************************************************** ACTIVITIES: Meetings may include: 1) Presentation: As indicated. 2) Question & Answer Session. 3) Raffle and free stuff! Bring your boxes, questions, problems, and plenty of good cheer! (And don't forget to start your installs early!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Mon Aug 3 08:17:18 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n73CHIXX009606 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:17:18 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n73CHIaw009603 for slug-track29; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:17:18 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n73CHICr009599 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:17:18 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx162.postini.com [74.125.149.88]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n73CHGrU002514 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:17:17 -0400 Received: from source ([75.180.132.122]) by na3sys009amx162.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:17:17 PDT Received: from Darth ([68.205.9.122]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090803121715963.SORB18482@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:17:15 +0000 From: "Ken Elliott" To: References: <20090731152704.GB14822@quillandmouse.com> <4A7324D6.5050505@verizon.net> <20090801041055.GD14822@quillandmouse.com> In-Reply-To: <20090801041055.GD14822@quillandmouse.com> Subject: RE: [SLUG] Mac OS X to NFS connection Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:17:37 -0400 Message-ID: <003301ca1434$641fa1d0$2c5ee570$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoSXibCynIMtee5REKT1jWLYIgkkAB1iF1w Content-Language: en-us X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [17/1] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net Paul, Is Samba on Mac OS not working for you? This is how I've done it in the past. Ken Elliott ===================== -----Original Message----- From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of Paul M Foster Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 12:11 AM To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Mac OS X to NFS connection On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 01:07:34PM -0400, Pete Theisen wrote: > Paul M Foster wrote: >> This is kinda off topic, but if someone has experience connecting from >> Mac OS X (Leopard) to Linux NFS shares and Windows SMB shares, I'd like >> some assistance. I've googled this topic, but the procedures I find are >> not working. Reply offlist > > Hi Paul, > > Then only you and the guys who tell you will know how? It seems to me > that everyone who uses Linux has to deal with those who don't. This is going the *other* way-- connecting from Mac to Windows and Linux. Paul -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Tue Aug 4 00:24:24 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n744OOci015491 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:24:24 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n744OODJ015488 for slug-track29; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:24:24 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n744ONwP015473 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:24:24 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx183.postini.com [74.125.149.164]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n744OLhb005760 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:24:21 -0400 Received: from source ([71.74.56.125]) by na3sys009amx183.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:24:22 PDT Received: from glaive ([97.106.103.29]) by hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090804042420586.FCJZ25718@hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:24:20 +0000 Received: from leebc by glaive with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MYBZU-00047L-6G for slug@nks.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:24:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:24:20 -0400 From: blee2@tampabay.rr.com To: "Suncoast Linux User's Group" Subject: [SLUG] LAN party ideas? Message-ID: <20090804042236.GK25474@glaive.dhs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:88.16750/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [17/1] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net A Friend of mine suggested I host a LAN party. I have an 8-port gigabit mini-switch wired into a couple rooms and can probably borrow another for a party. My system is a 4 year old server-class Dell with 1 GB RAM, Detected 2392.235 MHz hyper-threaded P4/Xenon processor, and pathetic graphics. Let me mention the pathetic graphics capabilities again. I've also got an even older systen I could use, an 800 MHz with 256 MB Ram, win98/linux/knoppix and an ATI RAGE 128 card. Any suggestions what games I could host/play? My friends would probabably bring Windows systems, so the games would have to be able to run on everything and have available downloads. Personally, I'd be happy with a group Nethack or Hunt The Wumpus, but I'm not sure about everyone else. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Tue Aug 4 03:21:54 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n747LsTl007965 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:21:54 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n747LsDh007962 for slug-track29; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:21:54 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n747Lr1N007958 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:21:53 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx180.postini.com [74.125.149.161]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n747LqnC016849 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:21:53 -0400 Received: from source ([74.125.92.27]) by na3sys009amx180.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:21:53 EDT Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1958334qwb.1 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:21:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KUzgJxSadL2//yD9WucEt0Ssf+IB1ZYHfu/oejNyxCY=; b=I12NfpraHgxjnklIWhnam1ODC8kGz/6nVI74CdwQ1m9A4uz5lK3NqX7buapcFP1pY+ S7eGiPWZifzScQFSBty1zJtsXt/9TdObevZkjKU7s7GBsZo1UBJlRHsv/PPV4/iYXvtR OTezws4KEb8up186me1VXvh6MdILYc2JwmQpc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wiT4bdR4yTL1YVPI0WtrOVAIAYVo9NIyR2fbwGFtfLheFvK3Nz8GBaeionEkWQGbq0 0MOkVCvXbAEiq6CwjxsAQp/V2jXELSQ8dFlSbYJleEdB6TonFZVigvzoKJYuv++Bhxre +R6p0Q8gLFpJyS/yDVnPBMZYUmjycxlzDEf/0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.99.130 with SMTP id u2mr1512607qcn.29.1249370510130; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:21:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090804042236.GK25474@glaive.dhs.org> References: <20090804042236.GK25474@glaive.dhs.org> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:21:50 -0400 Message-ID: <303706540908040021g40e6f7cbi8675d8d08a78217b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SLUG] LAN party ideas? From: draeath To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:98.85986/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from forward (user good) [17/1] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by slug-list-00.nks.net id n747Lr1M007959 Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net I find that Scorched3D is always fun, and you might be able to handle that. Maybe. http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/ On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:24 AM, wrote: > A Friend of mine suggested I host a LAN party. > > I have an 8-port gigabit mini-switch wired into a couple rooms and can > probably borrow another for a party. > > My system is a 4 year old server-class Dell with 1 GB RAM, Detected > 2392.235 MHz hyper-threaded P4/Xenon processor, and pathetic graphics. > Let me mention the pathetic graphics capabilities again. > > I've also got an even older systen I could use, an 800 MHz with 256 MB Ram, > win98/linux/knoppix and an ATI RAGE 128 card. > > > Any suggestions what games I could host/play?  My friends would > probabably bring Windows systems, so the games would have to be able to > run on everything and have available downloads. > > Personally, I'd be happy with a group Nethack or Hunt The Wumpus, but > I'm not sure about everyone else. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked > Knowledge Systems (NKS).  Views and opinions expressed in messages > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). 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(pool-71-251-125-186.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [71.251.125.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm4251321qwg.55.2009.08.04.04.43.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 04 Aug 2009 04:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A781EE3.7060205@mathey.org> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:43:31 -0400 From: Chris Mathey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] LAN party ideas? References: <20090804042236.GK25474@glaive.dhs.org> In-Reply-To: <20090804042236.GK25474@glaive.dhs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [17/1] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net blee2@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > A Friend of mine suggested I host a LAN party. > > I have an 8-port gigabit mini-switch wired into a couple rooms and can > probably borrow another for a party. > > My system is a 4 year old server-class Dell with 1 GB RAM, Detected > 2392.235 MHz hyper-threaded P4/Xenon processor, and pathetic graphics. > Let me mention the pathetic graphics capabilities again. > > I've also got an even older systen I could use, an 800 MHz with 256 MB Ram, > win98/linux/knoppix and an ATI RAGE 128 card. > > > Any suggestions what games I could host/play? My friends would > probabably bring Windows systems, so the games would have to be able to > run on everything and have available downloads. > > Personally, I'd be happy with a group Nethack or Hunt The Wumpus, but > I'm not sure about everyone else. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked > Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. > > This has been around a long time. http://enemy-territory.4players.de/news.php ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). 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From owner-slug-track29 Tue Aug 4 07:54:53 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n74Bsrk4013964 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:54:53 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n74Bsr72013961 for slug-track29; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:54:53 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n74BsrtQ013957 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:54:53 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx216.postini.com [74.125.149.56]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n74Bspvs004739 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:54:52 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.211.202]) by na3sys009amx216.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 04:54:52 MST Received: by ywh40 with SMTP id 40so4800801ywh.29 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 04:54:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=04JOpgFB2zl7ION+Zl6hqSmyo8jPTvkG8dGGz+Y22Lw=; b=kSrr6pzHN+zzkBCupfl/oOhfZoWE8wEqp++A5afHJxeIrCQHDbzrwECGQxcDSg23+w fBGyKiYv49VQ0mcQDhms8U3L6wwlFy+jqKPJosq23Qwb6Comf1RZBMKaJ7Fd7pTbNufc gk6sJy10KE3O8vbeiYw8xUisWEH1enWd2TB30= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ot9yfHWZ5fTGI9vG710sI5Wgw4Em1FL/mcrAMyaPPx4vv5djLOQ1jQPIuxrxHllSm/ 6IwtJjYDJkaxePlWg3jnLw29TLnM3zi572IA6qpexF+IlVkw5z9l72NhLRr7bNY0VLPD VZDmregN1tP7NrDM2QC90kMceuGk/nOWh8TMM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.157.11 with SMTP id f11mr12676438ybe.267.1249386891233; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 04:54:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20090804042236.GK25474@glaive.dhs.org> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:54:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [SLUG] LAN party ideas? From: Daniel Nakov To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd59c44d6ca6804704f8d84 X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [17/1] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net --000e0cd59c44d6ca6804704f8d84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Definitely check out Nexuiz. It might run in low graphics mode. The game is awesome. On Aug 4, 2009 12:25 AM, wrote: A Friend of mine suggested I host a LAN party. I have an 8-port gigabit mini-switch wired into a couple rooms and can probably borrow another for a party. My system is a 4 year old server-class Dell with 1 GB RAM, Detected 2392.235 MHz hyper-threaded P4/Xenon processor, and pathetic graphics. Let me mention the pathetic graphics capabilities again. I've also got an even older systen I could use, an 800 MHz with 256 MB Ram, win98/linux/knoppix and an ATI RAGE 128 card. Any suggestions what games I could host/play? My friends would probabably bring Windows systems, so the games would have to be able to run on everything and have available downloads. Personally, I'd be happy with a group Nethack or Hunt The Wumpus, but I'm not sure about everyone else. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. --000e0cd59c44d6ca6804704f8d84 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Definitely check out Nexuiz. It might run in low graphics mode. The game= is awesome.

On Aug 4, 2009 12:25 AM, <blee2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

A Frie= nd of mine suggested I host a LAN party.

I have an 8-port gigabit mini-switch wired into a couple rooms and can
probably borrow another for a party.

My system is a 4 year old server-class Dell with 1 GB RAM, Detected
2392.235 MHz hyper-threaded P4/Xenon processor, and pathetic graphics.
Let me mention the pathetic graphics capabilities again.

I've also got an even older systen I could use, an 800 MHz with 256 MB = Ram,
win98/linux/knoppix and an ATI RAGE 128 card.


Any suggestions what games I could host/play? =A0My friends would
probabably bring Windows systems, so the games would have to be able to
run on everything and have available downloads.

Personally, I'd be happy with a group Nethack or Hunt The Wumpus, but I'm not sure about everyone else.
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(172-16.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com [68.200.16.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm15232827qwd.52.2009.08.04.05.01.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A7822E1.5020503@ariestechgroup.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:00:33 -0400 From: Steven Van Tilburg Organization: Ariestech Group User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] LAN party ideas? References: <20090804042236.GK25474@glaive.dhs.org> In-Reply-To: <20090804042236.GK25474@glaive.dhs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:60.56035/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [17/1] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net The grandpappy of LAN games, BZFlag. http://bzflag.org/ VT blee2@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > A Friend of mine suggested I host a LAN party. > > I have an 8-port gigabit mini-switch wired into a couple rooms and can > probably borrow another for a party. > > My system is a 4 year old server-class Dell with 1 GB RAM, Detected > 2392.235 MHz hyper-threaded P4/Xenon processor, and pathetic graphics. > Let me mention the pathetic graphics capabilities again. > > I've also got an even older systen I could use, an 800 MHz with 256 MB Ram, > win98/linux/knoppix and an ATI RAGE 128 card. > > > Any suggestions what games I could host/play? My friends would > probabably bring Windows systems, so the games would have to be able to > run on everything and have available downloads. > > Personally, I'd be happy with a group Nethack or Hunt The Wumpus, but > I'm not sure about everyone else. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked > Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Tue Aug 4 08:13:13 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n74CDDCM016603 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:13:13 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n74CDDeO016600 for slug-track29; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:13:13 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n74CDDB3016596 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:13:13 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx213.postini.com [74.125.149.53]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n74CDB8t016644 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:13:12 -0400 Received: from source ([209.191.125.97]) by na3sys009amx213.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:13:12 GMT Received: (qmail 83122 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2009 12:13:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249387991; bh=xPY+w9FqZT7eChYXzFTmjGbdQg5kT120BlQq57GJq+Q=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TTE9WHAcT46dssriJTlx1fx8MFO3qEC7nADdiJc+h97h6Gu80ouNkWBCMKLhvFmxuTVDRH8mFUBAwrvEOx274x1IeuI2noxD14dSsxMoQ3l9FtbawNRmuU8vym3y8j41BxXjyAsTjBtWYXuYn0HH3P1VNbkvQ2c2ikVJAIVI2Bo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IO72YRFC3uF7pCkukHL7hH82i0WkTJ5ewYGGUxiHb73moXrbwzFs+DY6j1DQcJrmFDOMEADCv5krjY4ynBWLPD+tjB0yU2i7Pdfox9mLD9qQ+0uYZRdt7DnHWYaOSJqjX4opQ6yh2qB3CshepuPlUWqWFfkk9HLiHKts0dG5mb4=; Message-ID: <53180.81283.qm@web38806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: j3CBJ.MVM1mnUrtyETo51v.z4uMAJjWPKRT3ghzH1v3kBDQfc27Lol8ntRuavxVWFPa_XIEAT0xXH7xSHmTE28JTsesaeXH_bWG85fJdwE8QQVm.nbVJSFw1l0Ac8s4WzTWEOeyDeQhhlpTj.zUDEi5JjBO.HjXss_GgZzm9fXo._XYiSrUl8toh4AEbMsXYNRa6JlzbtumwZbakNep6WQlKSJ0UIAQ4sWL8BLbgXXL1D4ZK134Qk44C8R4Ey8uHiDn5D3XHQQiVqBl6TKlx4B3g5aHVu3LDbJniBWufz14a.Y_g682bN9wngZ0anKuPul8vTRBGRnxW93C_fVtLAluq7cIe4kArg7tfgXI2GmMbnA-- Received: from [87.248.121.243] by web38806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:13:10 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 05:13:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Setheck Subject: Re: [SLUG] LAN party ideas? To: "slug@nks.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:69.51869/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [17/1] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net What about counterstrike and Warcraft or Starcraft? We used to play those at LAN parties all the time. Great fun. And wine supports then pretty nicely now so I would immagine they would work fine. Another great one if you like fantasy games is neverwinter nights since there is a Linux client you would be set. Also savage is a pretty good game with a native Linux client. I'm sure there are many more. I think you need to ask your friends what they want to play and see if they run on Linux or if there is a similar FOSS game. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2009, at 8:00 AM, Steven Van Tilburg wrote: The grandpappy of LAN games, BZFlag. http://bzflag.org/ VT blee2@tampabay.rr.com wrote: A Friend of mine suggested I host a LAN party. I have an 8-port gigabit mini-switch wired into a couple rooms and can probably borrow another for a party. My system is a 4 year old server-class Dell with 1 GB RAM, Detected 2392.235 MHz hyper-threaded P4/Xenon processor, and pathetic graphics. Let me mention the pathetic graphics capabilities again. I've also got an even older systen I could use, an 800 MHz with 256 MB Ram, win98/linux/knoppix and an ATI RAGE 128 card. Any suggestions what games I could host/play? My friends would probabably bring Windows systems, so the games would have to be able to run on everything and have available downloads. Personally, I'd be happy with a group Nethack or Hunt The Wumpus, but I'm not sure about everyone else. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). 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From owner-slug-track29 Tue Aug 4 08:29:39 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n74CTd1t018965 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:29:39 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n74CTdLa018962 for slug-track29; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:29:39 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n74CTc7P018958 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:29:38 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx188.postini.com [74.125.149.169]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n74CTb8G024940 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:29:38 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.210.199]) by na3sys009amx188.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:29:38 GMT Received: by yxe37 with SMTP id 37so7919031yxe.7 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:29:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; bh=alQGihcBGEC3NYpubpIM40FTMYCn+/bhTYw+epR+/9M=; b=A04T/iOX1T2itpA40V+M+kuGcYkZrDVtiIbUKwEkTh36sjKRSPyAB3vpxUy9wdlNPE DNHWfhtLm5ffAy97vDXgE9n1AKwQksCzVg1895w8Z099u7M7rfPEVAdl2TrcIZMsWwxr 683ebKLDna3ys/RRjGIU+qyf8tyVLA/SxixIM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=tXHgm01reNLyUqZ1tQA3diXKNJAPoW/E5oEDMjuuylDs2fkeIADOPu6aPuW0i92ofP hnq42ulP+mjjBO8UfS8c7K7YSNBRQgTiA3ZJl2oX41AlBMx+8Bnj873PcFTq4ldZJOZe zfCLZ4igI3XVog75Ja9PIlPhkBV6JKvo51L4E= Received: by 10.100.96.10 with SMTP id t10mr8715448anb.26.1249388976621; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.20? (static-96-254-233-74.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [96.254.233.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm474282ywh.13.2009.08.04.05.29.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [SLUG] LAN party ideas? From: "Shawn J. Goff" To: slug@nks.net In-Reply-To: <20090804042236.GK25474@glaive.dhs.org> References: <20090804042236.GK25474@glaive.dhs.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:29:34 -0400 Message-Id: <1249388974.18954.3.camel@disco.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:23.43203/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [17/1] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net The most fun I've ever had at a lan party was with an old game called Descent. http://linux.strangegamer.com/index.php?title=Descent_II On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 00:24 -0400, blee2@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > A Friend of mine suggested I host a LAN party. > > I have an 8-port gigabit mini-switch wired into a couple rooms and can > probably borrow another for a party. > > My system is a 4 year old server-class Dell with 1 GB RAM, Detected > 2392.235 MHz hyper-threaded P4/Xenon processor, and pathetic graphics. > Let me mention the pathetic graphics capabilities again. > > I've also got an even older systen I could use, an 800 MHz with 256 MB Ram, > win98/linux/knoppix and an ATI RAGE 128 card. > > > Any suggestions what games I could host/play? My friends would > probabably bring Windows systems, so the games would have to be able to > run on everything and have available downloads. > > Personally, I'd be happy with a group Nethack or Hunt The Wumpus, but > I'm not sure about everyone else. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked > Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Tue Aug 4 12:41:49 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n74GfnYN021888 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:41:49 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n74Gfn0I021885 for slug-track29; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:41:49 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n74Gfnkn021881 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:41:49 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx177.postini.com [74.125.149.158]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n74Gfm9o016983 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:41:48 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.211.202]) by na3sys009amx177.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:41:48 EDT Received: by ywh40 with SMTP id 40so5098034ywh.29 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:41:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6B9xhBDtm0Zh59aPna9/CV3jqZmytYyIkfqIqBwiUVY=; b=bdmEE9x7rC2RF1hq3prEneW1o64pG+a2RKicbulxSLhE2T2IPmInbCh+gd9IQjJzkm eUknGriYbCQ06dkaTXUHBFRmbfgea1z2OX/Z/YvQT78EWDU48CTmaEFqZG9aYUn9stQT P7sYcclT33wJONi8B8C43d4q2vUWljzzOvo2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sx7YuEzfSeyRuxZ3Wn7RCVRVSjfKNT8RDg/FmOjEulbnaLUjowpT0OOowZegCXPXQK PO8MuX8WNKqUFHmpLeaX1X219w2xKoVkHzq1X6w1V3Z/3zNhXLW4CJ97flZyE7EqLDnn ZA9lPupHS0kmYsl76YlOF7AieVYUsui7LM5Kg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.33.4 with SMTP id f4mr2267715ibd.8.1249404105953; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:41:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1249388974.18954.3.camel@disco.home> References: <20090804042236.GK25474@glaive.dhs.org> <1249388974.18954.3.camel@disco.home> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:41:45 -0400 Message-ID: <7cb80b4d0908040941n2ed0e46kc5af99149308995e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SLUG] LAN party ideas? From: Antonio De Leon To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022152d6ec1ea91ed0470538ff1 X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:93.06730/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [17/1] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net --0022152d6ec1ea91ed0470538ff1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit that game is pure evil, pure evil i say. And descent 3, http://d3.descent.cx(tracker) On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Shawn J. Goff wrote: > The most fun I've ever had at a lan party was with an old game called > Descent. http://linux.strangegamer.com/index.php?title=Descent_II > > > On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 00:24 -0400, blee2@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > > A Friend of mine suggested I host a LAN party. > > > > I have an 8-port gigabit mini-switch wired into a couple rooms and can > > probably borrow another for a party. > > > > My system is a 4 year old server-class Dell with 1 GB RAM, Detected > > 2392.235 MHz hyper-threaded P4/Xenon processor, and pathetic graphics. > > Let me mention the pathetic graphics capabilities again. > > > > I've also got an even older systen I could use, an 800 MHz with 256 MB > Ram, > > win98/linux/knoppix and an ATI RAGE 128 card. > > > > > > Any suggestions what games I could host/play? My friends would > > probabably bring Windows systems, so the games would have to be able to > > run on everything and have available downloads. > > > > Personally, I'd be happy with a group Nethack or Hunt The Wumpus, but > > I'm not sure about everyone else. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked > > Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages > > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the > > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked > Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. > -- Antonio De Leon --0022152d6ec1ea91ed0470538ff1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that game is pure evil, pure evil i say. And descent 3, http://d3.descent.cx (tracker)

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Shawn J. Goff <= ;shawn7400@gmail.com> = wrote:
The most fun I= 9;ve ever had at a lan party was with an old game called
Descent. http://linux.strangegamer.com/index.php?title=3DDesc= ent_II


On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 00:24 -0400, blee2@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
> A Friend of mine suggested I host a LAN party.
>
> I have an 8-port gigabit mini-switch wired into a couple rooms and can=
> probably borrow another for a party.
>
> My system is a 4 year old server-class Dell with 1 GB RAM, Detected > 2392.235 MHz hyper-threaded P4/Xenon processor, and pathetic graphics.=
> Let me mention the pathetic graphics capabilities again.
>
> I've also got an even older systen I could use, an 800 MHz with 25= 6 MB Ram,
> win98/linux/knoppix and an ATI RAGE 128 card.
>
>
> Any suggestions what games I could host/play? =A0My friends would
> probabably bring Windows systems, so the games would have to be able t= o
> run on everything and have available downloads.
>
> Personally, I'd be happy with a group Nethack or Hunt The Wumpus, = but
> I'm not sure about everyone else.
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Antonio De = Leon
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From owner-slug-track29 Tue Aug 4 17:00:16 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n74L0GLu025703 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:00:16 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n74L0GO0025700 for slug-track29; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:00:16 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n74L0EOa025685 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:00:15 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx233.postini.com [74.125.149.117]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n74L0D5k018497 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:00:14 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.217.213]) by na3sys009amx233.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:00:14 PDT Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so7262338gxk.13 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:00:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9pBqsXGNKLcM+Q5QtFx0L0NRooAzGU/IBOcuV5Fh3Xs=; b=w+Tu/Tb25cxz/1Z59Ldd0iA08oeVnnYPsrB1BtK9ONAtPncL0wBaJEa8LMRYnGp7hu rLPdejotFvPqq+AvMCR1gIg1R9ZPZRTD1SMh2ENYUBB3uJ9dXm6b6gWjvsey3NaoYM1n DGFe33gSp4NVieE8wxdfpOuHhaDYYMRWtrV6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wdsGwxMaH2ccaCiSgm+HjP72ftPJo5hekGbppSy0Shahxl2xMN0YuPyUWvAxc+qvN6 i03xSqYipiPKj42kyvr7eYcppbcIOWAvweQ0IiMwRF9J4k4FRob7zr6OxR7R6cE17pFq QOZqHNqmH4UbQWOBe+3o2J0f3ImX1urYEC4bY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.34.11 with SMTP id h11mr3256257agh.22.1249419611777; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:00:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7cb80b4d0908040941n2ed0e46kc5af99149308995e@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090804042236.GK25474@glaive.dhs.org> <1249388974.18954.3.camel@disco.home> <7cb80b4d0908040941n2ed0e46kc5af99149308995e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:00:10 -0400 Message-ID: <22e1856d0908041400t637cc43aia64b62c151503dd9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SLUG] LAN party ideas? From: Tyler Vann-Campbell To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [17/1] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net Haven't been to a LAN party in years, but the best game at the ones I used to host was undoubtedly Armagetron. I'm nostalgic just thinking about it. http://www.armagetronad.net/ On 8/4/09, Antonio De Leon wrote: > that game is pure evil, pure evil i say. And descent 3, > http://d3.descent.cx(tracker) > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Shawn J. Goff wrote: > >> The most fun I've ever had at a lan party was with an old game called >> Descent. http://linux.strangegamer.com/index.php?title=Descent_II >> >> >> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 00:24 -0400, blee2@tampabay.rr.com wrote: >> > A Friend of mine suggested I host a LAN party. >> > >> > I have an 8-port gigabit mini-switch wired into a couple rooms and can >> > probably borrow another for a party. >> > >> > My system is a 4 year old server-class Dell with 1 GB RAM, Detected >> > 2392.235 MHz hyper-threaded P4/Xenon processor, and pathetic graphics. >> > Let me mention the pathetic graphics capabilities again. >> > >> > I've also got an even older systen I could use, an 800 MHz with 256 MB >> Ram, >> > win98/linux/knoppix and an ATI RAGE 128 card. >> > >> > >> > Any suggestions what games I could host/play? My friends would >> > probabably bring Windows systems, so the games would have to be able to >> > run on everything and have available downloads. >> > >> > Personally, I'd be happy with a group Nethack or Hunt The Wumpus, but >> > I'm not sure about everyone else. >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked >> > Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages >> > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the >> > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked >> Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages >> posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the >> official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. >> > > > > -- > Antonio De Leon > -- Sent from my mobile device "The power of the computer is marvelous, and the cost of computer power is small, and you can over time build files that have lots of information on them about people's past preferences, and prejudices, and living patterns." K.R. 1999 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Wed Aug 5 23:47:46 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n763lknA024488 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:47:46 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n763lk6O024485 for slug-track29; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:47:46 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n763ljBW024481 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:47:46 -0400 Received: from na3sys009amo105.postini.com (na3sys009amo105.postini.com [74.125.149.39]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n763lj43005673 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:47:45 -0400 Received: from postini.com (na3sys009amc110.postini.com [74.125.149.32]) by na3sys009amo105.postini.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8C819CACB for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 20:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([206.46.173.13]) by na3sys009amx191.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:23:35 PDT Received: from [192.168.1.47] ([71.101.115.85]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNG00F8SGIT0L64@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for slug@nks.net; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:23:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A6DFFBE.2070902@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:27:58 -0400 From: Pete Theisen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-version: 1.0 To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Dumb video card question References: <200907261808.10105.rnr@sanctum.com> <4A6CD946.1070101@verizon.net> <4A6CF794.4060607@gmail.com> <4A6D19B2.1050706@verizon.net> <001b01ca0ede$9efe3970$dcfaac50$@rr.com> In-reply-to: <001b01ca0ede$9efe3970$dcfaac50$@rr.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S: 0.49849/99.81171 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [17/1] X-pstn-disposition: quarantine Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net Ken Elliott wrote: > So the marketers made a mess of things for users and won the marketing war. > But the engineers did good - we have a new standard that works well and cuts > cost, yet has better performance. Yes, you can put a single-lane PCI-e card > in any PCI-e slot as long as it has the same or greater number of lanes as > the card. In fact, I needed a graphics card for a HP server that had a > 8-lane PCI-e slot, but the cards where either 1-land or 16-lane. I used > Dremel to cut off the last 8 lanes of the graphics card and it worked fine. > How's that for backward compatibility? Hi Ken, I know, you have a good corporate IT budget. You can afford a PCI-e card *and* a Dremel. Probably even have a legal copy of The Great $atan. /envy/ -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Thu Aug 6 13:47:48 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n76HlmuS012330 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:47:48 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n76Hlm9O012327 for slug-track29; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:47:48 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n76HllW2012323 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:47:47 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx231.postini.com [74.125.149.115]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n76HljYO029977 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:47:46 -0400 Received: from source ([206.46.173.1]) by na3sys009amx231.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:47:46 EDT Received: from news.home ([71.180.243.188]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNY009KUUQWJPGC@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for slug@nks.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:47:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:47:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Eben King X-X-Sender: eben@pc.home To: SLUG Mailing List Subject: [SLUG] iPod free space Message-id: User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-GetARealMailreader: [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net I have a second-generation iPod Touch (internal speaker, contoured back). This is unlike what I've read about earlier iPods in that none of the third-party management tools works. So I'm stuck with iTunes. Except that I installed an app called "Finder" (think MacOS) and a third-party media player. I can ssh and ftp into it so I can do file management that way, as long as I don't expect the iPod's default apps to take notice of what I've done. Last week I noticed space was getting low (it's a 16GB unit), so I deleted a big file through Finder. I forget how big exactly, but somewhere in the dozens of megabytes. Free space didn't change. I've now got 56 KB left[1]. Is there a Trash I have to empty? I can't see one in Finder. Just to make sure it didn't reclaim the free space then fill it up again without me noticing, I just deleted a 700 MB file (same method) then immediately went to Settings. 56 KB free. So if it filled it up again it did so in a few seconds. [1] The (internal) Flash card is partitioned, so the OS "drive" has 535 MB free. It's only the one for user files that's about full. -- -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP http://royalty.mine.nu:81 CANCER: The position of Jupiter says that you should spend the rest of the week face down in the mud. Try not to shove a roll of duct tape up your nose when taking your driver's test. -- Weird Al ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Thu Aug 6 15:10:19 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n76JAJV0023852 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:10:19 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n76JAJRI023849 for slug-track29; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:10:19 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n76JAI4P023845 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:10:19 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx188.postini.com [74.125.149.169]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n76JAHH0012222 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:10:17 -0400 Received: from source ([216.180.234.5]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009amx188.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:10:17 GMT Received: from pool-71-180-158-206.tampfl.fios.verizon.net ([71.180.158.206]:39976 helo=sherman.mars.lan) by haylee.gendns10.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MZ8Lv-0007ES-IU for slug@nks.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:10:15 -0400 Received: by sherman.mars.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9869F56F02; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:10:13 -0400 From: Paul M Foster To: slug@nks.net Subject: [SLUG] Which site is just a pointer? Message-ID: <20090806191013.GH14822@quillandmouse.com> Mail-Followup-To: slug@nks.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - haylee.gendns10.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - nks.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - quillandmouse.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:49.91293/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net I've got two sites a customer set up, one of which is where their web content actually is, and one merely "points" to the other. I'd like to find out which site is the "real" one. There's a command to query the DNS records, which will tell which is which. But I can't remember the command. Anyone know? Paul -- Paul M. Foster ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Thu Aug 6 15:18:04 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n76JI3of024995 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:18:03 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n76JI39C024992 for slug-track29; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:18:03 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n76JI2Ek024988 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:18:03 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx220.postini.com [74.125.149.60]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n76JI0ls013393 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:18:01 -0400 Received: from source ([206.46.173.11]) by na3sys009amx220.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:18:01 PDT Received: from news.home ([71.180.243.188]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNY003DRYXC5HV7@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for slug@nks.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:17:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:17:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Eben King X-X-Sender: eben@pc.home To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Which site is just a pointer? In-reply-to: <20090806191013.GH14822@quillandmouse.com> Message-id: References: <20090806191013.GH14822@quillandmouse.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-GetARealMailreader: [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Paul M Foster wrote: > I've got two sites a customer set up, one of which is where their web > content actually is, and one merely "points" to the other. I'd like to > find out which site is the "real" one. There's a command to query the > DNS records, which will tell which is which. But I can't remember the > command. Anyone know? dig? eben@pc:~$ dig nks.net ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P2 <<>> nks.net ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 46322 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;nks.net. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: nks.net. 1800 IN A 216.134.200.58 ;; Query time: 43 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.38#53(192.168.1.38) ;; WHEN: Thu Aug 6 15:16:41 2009 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 41 -- -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81 Two atoms are walking along. Suddenly, one stops. The other says, "What's wrong?" "I've lost an electron." "Are you sure?" "I'm positive!" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Thu Aug 6 15:30:27 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n76JURUi026715 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:30:27 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n76JURDv026712 for slug-track29; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:30:27 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n76JURoD026708 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:30:27 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx202.postini.com [74.125.149.42]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n76JUPB2015557 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:30:26 -0400 Received: from source ([71.74.56.124]) by na3sys009amx202.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:30:26 GMT Received: from zippy ([97.97.22.47]) by hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090806193025007.IETX6077@hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:30:25 +0000 From: "R.G. Mayhue" To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Which site is just a pointer? Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:30:21 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.0 (Linux/2.6.28-14-generic; KDE/4.3.0; i686; ; ) References: <20090806191013.GH14822@quillandmouse.com> In-Reply-To: <20090806191013.GH14822@quillandmouse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200908061530.21316.rmayhue@tampabay.rr.com> X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:85.86637/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net On Thursday 06 August 2009 3:10:13 pm Paul M Foster wrote: > > I've got two sites a customer set up, one of which is where their web > content actually is, and one merely "points" to the other. I'd like to > find out which site is the "real" one. There's a command to query the > DNS records, which will tell which is which. But I can't remember the > command. Anyone know? > > Paul > > The 'host' command should tell you if its a CNAME. ~$ host example.com. example.com is an alias for example.net. example.net has address xx.xx.xx.xx -- Rob ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Sun Aug 9 14:51:15 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n79IpEWG010186 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:51:15 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n79IpECX010183 for slug-track29; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:51:14 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n79IpEM7010179 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:51:14 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx225.postini.com [74.125.149.65]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n79IpDX9021617 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:51:13 -0400 Received: from source ([206.46.173.11]) by na3sys009amx225.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:51:13 PDT Received: from news.home ([71.180.243.188]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KO400AB3HPCGD24@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for slug@nks.net; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:51:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:51:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Eben King X-X-Sender: eben@pc.home To: SLUG Mailing List Subject: [SLUG] WebTV Message-id: User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-GetARealMailreader: [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net I find myself in posession of a WebTV, and am considering giving it to my grandmother (think the worst computer-illiterate person you know times 10, plus self-esteem problems to boot) on the grounds that, since its capabilities are really limited, she can't screw it up too badly. The device works as far as I know. It uses some online service, correct? Does it use standard SMTP/POP protocols? I assume it can browse the web, and this one arrived with a parallel cable so apparently it supports local printing. How about cookiaes, Javascript, and Flash? Are there compatibility problems? -- -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP http://royalty.mine.nu:81 CAPRICORN: The stars say you're an exciting and wonderful person... but you know they're lying. If I were you, I'd lock my doors and windows and never never never never never leave my house again. -- Weird Al ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Sun Aug 9 17:28:50 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n79LSoo3032355 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:28:50 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n79LSo2e032352 for slug-track29; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:28:50 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n79LSnBT032348 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:28:49 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx237.postini.com [74.125.149.121]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n79LSm9M021196 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:28:48 -0400 Received: from source ([216.180.234.5]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009amx237.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:28:49 PDT Received: from pool-71-180-158-206.tampfl.fios.verizon.net ([71.180.158.206]:44600 helo=sherman.mars.lan) by haylee.gendns10.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MaFwd-00046q-P5; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:28:47 -0400 Received: by sherman.mars.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CC8CB56F02; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:28:44 -0400 (EDT) To: slug@nks.net, slug-announce@nks.net, cola@stump.algebra.com Subject: [SLUG] Suncoast LUG Meetings Message-Id: <20090809212844.CC8CB56F02@sherman.mars.lan> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:28:44 -0400 (EDT) From: paulf@quillandmouse.com (Paul M Foster) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - haylee.gendns10.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - nks.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - quillandmouse.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S: 5.68633/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net ************************************* * Suncoast Linux Users Group (SLUG) * * Meeting Schedule * ************************************* TAMPA **************************************************** 11 August 19:00-21:00 Tampa (Usually Tuesday, usually first half of month) Hillsborough Community College Dale Mabry Campus Technology Bldg, Rm 426 4001 Tampa Bay Blvd Tampa, FL See http://www.hccfl.edu/pollock/Docs/DM-Map.htm for directions. *********************************************************** ACTIVITIES: Meetings may include: 1) Presentation: As indicated. 2) Question & Answer Session. 3) Raffle and free stuff! 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From owner-slug-track29 Mon Aug 10 22:09:38 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7B29cIm014223 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:09:38 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7B29cOl014220 for slug-track29; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:09:38 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7B29bBt014205 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:09:37 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx170.postini.com [74.125.149.96]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7B29a1v009790 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:09:37 -0400 Received: from source ([216.180.234.5]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009amx170.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:09:37 GMT Received: from pool-71-180-158-206.tampfl.fios.verizon.net ([71.180.158.206]:1146 helo=pokey.mars.lan) by haylee.gendns10.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Magnv-00082k-3P for slug@nks.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:09:35 -0400 Received: from sherman.mars.lan (sherman.mars.lan [192.168.10.3]) by pokey.mars.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3004E81CB for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sherman.mars.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9916D56F02; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:09:32 -0400 From: Paul M Foster To: slug@nks.net Subject: [SLUG] Masquerading as another user on boot Message-ID: <20090811020932.GD32060@quillandmouse.com> Mail-Followup-To: slug@nks.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - haylee.gendns10.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - nks.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - quillandmouse.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:22.12816/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net I just set up a centralized mailserver for our network. As configured, a fetchmail process runs as a daemon for each user. (Fetchmail run as a single, central daemon dumps email into /var/mail/fetchmail, instead of the individual spool files.) If I have to restart that system for some reason, I'd like a way to restart the individual fetchmail daemons (all two of them). But they run under the UID of the individual users who issue the fetchmail command. Rather than having to ssh into that server as each user and issue a fetchmail command, I'd like a way (preferably a script) which will lauch the two fetchmail instances as the individual users without my intervention. I know, tall order. Any ideas? Paul -- Paul M. Foster ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). 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From owner-slug-track29 Mon Aug 10 22:30:45 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7B2Ujga017207 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:30:45 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7B2UjF2017204 for slug-track29; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:30:45 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7B2Uikp017200 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:30:44 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx160.postini.com [74.125.149.86]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7B2UgjQ013234 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:30:42 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.198.234]) by na3sys009amx160.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:30:43 PDT Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f9so950700rvb.49 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:30:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=psAxEWdFawVnJPNBi2S2KGuSXEzj0HmKed7xqttw6U8=; b=Mb+Y2uTvq/srt32l5r0v6wj2ZyLKKxta50aOAzQ4b7mdOvtze+nZLXkapQ5ozPmXIb lz7qIOcsXXgir5S9y1NsXrQKZOHg6a9ca/OrnDpnzGGPt3Yacp7S6oZrJnnlY5lAhgj7 pQpONJQl9XY7OljzDUeGKRVwtR2ticK79JjyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RwzkmKH+6Z0XU4cWF7876N0YxsIqCgokTzLZTjzkBWjq4VSXVXRTRXg6PIZN62rZoj jviJhfAJ7GLe0rkAJ9Icqoxa2fwuBl9XaZeW89akjaQIwicJBDBe81GVFjNlTXwOA2pe RcaswrI0+9WlRkzt581R1TkanMulvXt83rHWQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.126.9 with SMTP id y9mr1823301rvc.142.1249957841391; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:30:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090811020932.GD32060@quillandmouse.com> References: <20090811020932.GD32060@quillandmouse.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:30:41 -0400 Message-ID: <7cb80b4d0908101930t1b0e5e01g1c4aaa8af9a7eb12@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Masquerading as another user on boot From: Antonio De Leon To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd24d9e1ecf320470d47d6d X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:95.15390/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net --000e0cd24d9e1ecf320470d47d6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit could use sudo but before edit /etc/sudoers and give permission to the group of those having fetchmail run then just run fetchmail. Around those lines i bet. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Paul M Foster wrote: > I just set up a centralized mailserver for our network. As configured, a > fetchmail process runs as a daemon for each user. (Fetchmail run as a > single, central daemon dumps email into /var/mail/fetchmail, instead of > the individual spool files.) If I have to restart that system for some > reason, I'd like a way to restart the individual fetchmail daemons (all > two of them). But they run under the UID of the individual users who > issue the fetchmail command. Rather than having to ssh into that server > as each user and issue a fetchmail command, I'd like a way (preferably a > script) which will lauch the two fetchmail instances as the individual > users without my intervention. I know, tall order. > > Any ideas? > > Paul > > -- > Paul M. Foster > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked > Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. > -- Antonio De Leon --000e0cd24d9e1ecf320470d47d6d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable could use sudo but before edit /etc/sudoers and give permission to the grou= p of those having fetchmail run then just run fetchmail. Around those lines= i bet.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:09 PM,= Paul M Foster <paulf@quillandmouse.com> wrote:
I just set up a c= entralized mailserver for our network. As configured, a
fetchmail process runs as a daemon for each user. (Fetchmail run as a
single, central daemon dumps email into /var/mail/fetchmail, instead of
the individual spool files.) If I have to restart that system for some
reason, I'd like a way to restart the individual fetchmail daemons (all=
two of them). But they run under the UID of the individual users who
issue the fetchmail command. Rather than having to ssh into that server
as each user and issue a fetchmail command, I'd like a way (preferably = a
script) which will lauch the two fetchmail instances as the individual
users without my intervention. I know, tall order.

Any ideas?

Paul

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(pool-71-251-125-186.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [71.251.125.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm1600970qwf.27.2009.08.10.19.45.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A80DB5C.1000604@mathey.org> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:45:48 -0400 From: Chris Mathey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Masquerading as another user on boot References: <20090811020932.GD32060@quillandmouse.com> In-Reply-To: <20090811020932.GD32060@quillandmouse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net Paul M Foster wrote: > I just set up a centralized mailserver for our network. As configured, a > fetchmail process runs as a daemon for each user. (Fetchmail run as a > single, central daemon dumps email into /var/mail/fetchmail, instead of > the individual spool files.) If I have to restart that system for some > reason, I'd like a way to restart the individual fetchmail daemons (all > two of them). But they run under the UID of the individual users who > issue the fetchmail command. Rather than having to ssh into that server > as each user and issue a fetchmail command, I'd like a way (preferably a > script) which will lauch the two fetchmail instances as the individual > users without my intervention. I know, tall order. > > Any ideas? > > Paul > > If you are running fetchamil in daemon mode then all you need is /etc/fetchmailrc. Add "poll" for each user. If a users wants to set up an individual one then they can create their own file in ~/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Mon Aug 10 22:57:11 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7B2vBFp020900 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:57:11 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7B2vBMQ020897 for slug-track29; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:57:11 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7B2vBmd020893 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:57:11 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx180.postini.com [74.125.149.161]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7B2vAgg017559 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:57:10 -0400 Received: from source ([216.180.234.5]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009amx180.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:57:10 PDT Received: from pool-71-180-158-206.tampfl.fios.verizon.net ([71.180.158.206]:4964 helo=pokey.mars.lan) by haylee.gendns10.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MahXx-000233-0Q for slug@nks.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:57:09 -0400 Received: from sherman.mars.lan (sherman.mars.lan [192.168.10.3]) by pokey.mars.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99962E81CB for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:57:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sherman.mars.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 74F5111F767; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:57:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:57:06 -0400 From: Paul M Foster To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Masquerading as another user on boot Message-ID: <20090811025706.GH32060@quillandmouse.com> Mail-Followup-To: slug@nks.net References: <20090811020932.GD32060@quillandmouse.com> <4A80DB5C.1000604@mathey.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A80DB5C.1000604@mathey.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - haylee.gendns10.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - nks.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - quillandmouse.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:45:48PM -0400, Chris Mathey wrote: > Paul M Foster wrote: >> I just set up a centralized mailserver for our network. As configured, a >> fetchmail process runs as a daemon for each user. (Fetchmail run as a >> single, central daemon dumps email into /var/mail/fetchmail, instead of >> the individual spool files.) If I have to restart that system for some >> reason, I'd like a way to restart the individual fetchmail daemons (all >> two of them). But they run under the UID of the individual users who >> issue the fetchmail command. Rather than having to ssh into that server >> as each user and issue a fetchmail command, I'd like a way (preferably a >> script) which will lauch the two fetchmail instances as the individual >> users without my intervention. I know, tall order. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Paul >> >> > If you are running fetchamil in daemon mode then all you need is > /etc/fetchmailrc. Add "poll" for each user. > If a users wants to set up an individual one then they can create their > own file in ~/ Here's the problem: unless you use "multidrop mode", which is hairy and which I don't fully understand, if you just run a central fetchmail daemon, the mail dumps into /var/mail/fetchmail. What I need instead is for mail for me to end up in /var/mail/paulf and mail for Nancy to end up in /var/mail/nancyf. Hence the need for two separate user-launched fetchmail daemons. Paul -- Paul M. Foster ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Mon Aug 10 23:28:13 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7B3SCqs025343 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:28:12 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7B3SCMw025340 for slug-track29; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:28:12 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7B3SCMS025325 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:28:12 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx169.postini.com [74.125.149.95]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7B3SA25027805 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:28:11 -0400 Received: from source ([206.46.173.9]) by na3sys009amx169.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:28:11 GMT Received: from news.home ([71.180.243.188]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KO700ECM0ARZD33@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for slug@nks.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:28:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:28:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Eben King X-X-Sender: eben@pc.home To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Masquerading as another user on boot In-reply-to: <20090811025706.GH32060@quillandmouse.com> Message-id: References: <20090811020932.GD32060@quillandmouse.com> <4A80DB5C.1000604@mathey.org> <20090811025706.GH32060@quillandmouse.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-GetARealMailreader: [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:45:48PM -0400, Chris Mathey wrote: > >> Paul M Foster wrote: >>> I just set up a centralized mailserver for our network. As configured, a >>> fetchmail process runs as a daemon for each user. (Fetchmail run as a >>> single, central daemon dumps email into /var/mail/fetchmail, instead of >>> the individual spool files.) If I have to restart that system for some >>> reason, I'd like a way to restart the individual fetchmail daemons (all >>> two of them). But they run under the UID of the individual users who >>> issue the fetchmail command. Rather than having to ssh into that server >>> as each user and issue a fetchmail command, I'd like a way (preferably a >>> script) which will lauch the two fetchmail instances as the individual >>> users without my intervention. I know, tall order. >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> >>> >> If you are running fetchamil in daemon mode then all you need is >> /etc/fetchmailrc. Add "poll" for each user. >> If a users wants to set up an individual one then they can create their >> own file in ~/ > > Here's the problem: unless you use "multidrop mode", which is hairy and > which I don't fully understand, if you just run a central fetchmail > daemon, the mail dumps into /var/mail/fetchmail. What I need instead is > for mail for me to end up in /var/mail/paulf and mail for Nancy to end > up in /var/mail/nancyf. Hence the need for two separate user-launched > fetchmail daemons. First guess: /bin/foo: ,-- | #! /bin/sh | for user in $(; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:35:48 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7B3Zm3P026391 for slug-track29; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:35:48 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7B3ZlLc026387 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:35:47 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx199.postini.com [74.125.149.235]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7B3ZjRg030987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:35:46 -0400 Received: from source ([216.253.133.145]) by na3sys009amx199.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:35:46 GMT Received: from easystreet.home (*authenticated* [96.254.85.249] rnr@sanctum.com) by SANCTUM.COM with ESMTP (IOA-IPAD 6.19q) id 3EO8I00 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:35:43 -0400 From: Bob Stia Organization: Easystreet To: slug@nks.net Subject: [SLUG] Strange Caps behavior Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:35:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908102335.43189.rnr@sanctum.com> X-SANCTUM.COM-AS: au:1 mx:-1 es:0 sc:0+0 ap:0 ex:1 X-pstn-2strike: clear X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S: 1.52738/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [66/3] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by slug-list-00.nks.net id n7B3ZmLb026388 Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net Hello Sluggers, Wondering is anyone else has seen this stange behavior. While I am in the middle of typing a document the fonts will suddenly go from lower case to capital, and NO I don't accidentlt hit the "Caps" key, and there is no indicator light on the keyboard. Then I must hit the "Caps" key, get the indicator light and the fonts are displayed as lower case. The shift key will work but it is now opposite. >From that point on every app, kwrite, Firefox, a teminal etc. will follow this strange behavior. Cannot get out of it until I kill the session. On starting a new session all is well again....until... it does it again. Anybody have any wild ideas about this ??? Bob S ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Tue Aug 11 00:31:30 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7B4VU6f001783 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:31:30 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7B4VUoL001780 for slug-track29; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:31:30 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7B4VT6O001776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:31:29 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx173.postini.com [74.125.149.99]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7B4VSO7010605 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:31:28 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.221.182]) by na3sys009amx173.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:31:29 ICT Received: by qyk12 with SMTP id 12so2934343qyk.7 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:31:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iduouoGcKGpyJO/MT+rFx3k618wyBCFK277obeTpuWU=; b=S3mhH/15bzF1tm7PA1KH5QSQwBWSshcIVCRQM0FJ7j8eE46BAkS2VAAFl/FnOOk5rX YbCT6Kncs7U3GCTXbBRXXgLUryJpYfAIA08J6GFWsyvWJARD1HmfAEZs/xyuc4FBTzCr w43R3jJrYYygGU23xxy4Nq8wcwJ8puzCHABSU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pXXPjVjg5x4qxTenIiCml65diXkHsAHwzgVS2tqQ6bL1Wn6TaG+NldpTGez1D80ySj r6XExZJZyDHxYAwpCZCCrhyoDgQHRi199NlVZzJ+zpUCzs0BfNdv0/51KC0Qwkd6rTee NdYA+BnPs5H9yNCjSy+Wx1YMYyi+y96Fa6CCg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.97.144 with SMTP id l16mr1882020qcn.26.1249965087291; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:31:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200908102335.43189.rnr@sanctum.com> References: <200908102335.43189.rnr@sanctum.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:31:27 -0400 Message-ID: <303706540908102131h2a35517m975b53236ee034ab@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Strange Caps behavior From: draeath To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from forward (user good) [66/3] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by slug-list-00.nks.net id n7B4VT6N001777 Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net Are you using xmodmap at all? It's possible some key or key combination got assigned to capslock's function? On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Bob Stia wrote: > Hello Sluggers, > > Wondering is anyone else has seen this stange behavior. > > While I am in the middle of typing a document the fonts will suddenly go from > lower case to capital, and NO I don't accidentlt hit the "Caps" key, and > there is no indicator light on the keyboard. Then I must hit the "Caps" key, > get the indicator light and the fonts are displayed as lower case. The shift > key will work but it is now opposite. > > From that point on every app, kwrite, Firefox, a teminal etc. will follow this > strange behavior. Cannot get out of it until I kill the session. On starting > a new session all is well again....until... it does it again. > > Anybody have any wild ideas about this ??? > > Bob S > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked > Knowledge Systems (NKS).  Views and opinions expressed in messages > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Tue Aug 11 00:57:21 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7B4vLC4005337 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:57:21 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7B4vLnQ005334 for slug-track29; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:57:21 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7B4vKv9005330 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:57:20 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx224.postini.com [74.125.149.64]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7B4vJdV015333 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:57:19 -0400 Received: from source ([206.46.173.7]) by na3sys009amx224.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:57:19 GMT Received: from news.home ([71.180.243.188]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KO70024O4FEBDC2@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for slug@nks.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:57:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:57:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Eben King X-X-Sender: eben@pc.home To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Strange Caps behavior In-reply-to: <303706540908102131h2a35517m975b53236ee034ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-id: References: <200908102335.43189.rnr@sanctum.com> <303706540908102131h2a35517m975b53236ee034ab@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-GetARealMailreader: [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, draeath wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Bob Stia wrote: >> Hello Sluggers, >> >> Wondering is anyone else has seen this stange behavior. >> >> While I am in the middle of typing a document the fonts will suddenly go from >> lower case to capital, and NO I don't accidentlt hit the "Caps" key, and >> there is no indicator light on the keyboard. Then I must hit the "Caps" key, >> get the indicator light and the fonts are displayed as lower case. The shift >> key will work but it is now opposite. >> >> From that point on every app, kwrite, Firefox, a teminal etc. will follow this >> strange behavior. Cannot get out of it until I kill the session. On starting >> a new session all is well again....until... it does it again. >> >> Anybody have any wild ideas about this ??? > Are you using xmodmap at all? It's possible some key or key > combination got assigned to capslock's function? 'xmodmap -pm | grep Caps_Lock' should tell you what's mapped to Caps_Lock. 1st column is the key name. "lock" is the key normally bound to it. You can also try pressing shift-q, ctrl-q, alt-q, winkey-q, rightmousekey-q, shift-w, etc through each printing key to see when it happens. I hope that finds it, because there are 10 2-modifier and 10 3-modifier combinations for each key, I would guess something with the winkey as it's something you might not hit on purpose. -- -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81 This message was created using recycled electrons. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Tue Aug 11 07:07:30 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7BB7Udj025144 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:07:30 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7BB7U2A025141 for slug-track29; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:07:30 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7BB7TeG025137 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:07:29 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx171.postini.com [74.125.149.97]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7BB7Suc002633 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:07:28 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.217.213]) by na3sys009amx171.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:07:28 GMT Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so4965200gxk.13 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:07:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+X3vbQpZug/8Q4cxUasz8S909q1kqSqL6JZ+KFouvQs=; b=j/PMTMW5AlIW6ezxekzG0fw71PBhT+6Qq4J0QQ4SPSnLIMcpSUhYKFuYEnPxL8WyKT Y5NkEZM02DbH75QOoBaPjH4LDGNZJzyKFfN9YIvfn8GyVIbjTrTp00iJRAV664eO6B5L gP9wUB8qrI1XOqsfVM0rLA6NAt9jXb0bJw5JQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=ppRMg2z4XQQxkQESRys1VfH20YCX+4qdy/gWJaqx8N5dLjOuHTPcZ2v8CBuGfB0Dbo VaJXSupfP/zm9GIWLTAPRbHlrE87Wnd4wTwUutdOuLL2c6oS8jazBRo+beNBCnNjTNXf WVf2XJB1cWrM/bIIbq+wuxQ8x6mvrs9ncP0Q8= Received: by 10.90.82.8 with SMTP id f8mr4994036agb.43.1249988847353; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (static-96-254-233-74.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [96.254.233.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm2143592agd.51.2009.08.11.04.07.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [SLUG] Strange Caps behavior From: "Shawn J. Goff" To: slug@nks.net In-Reply-To: <200908102335.43189.rnr@sanctum.com> References: <200908102335.43189.rnr@sanctum.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:07:26 -0400 Message-Id: <1249988846.29750.1.camel@disco.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:47.76529/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net I have that problem. For me, it's my shift key; all of the sudden the system thinks I'm holding the shift key down. To fix it, I just hit the shift key. On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 23:35 -0400, Bob Stia wrote: > Hello Sluggers, > > Wondering is anyone else has seen this stange behavior. > > While I am in the middle of typing a document the fonts will suddenly go from > lower case to capital, and NO I don't accidentlt hit the "Caps" key, and > there is no indicator light on the keyboard. Then I must hit the "Caps" key, > get the indicator light and the fonts are displayed as lower case. The shift > key will work but it is now opposite. > > From that point on every app, kwrite, Firefox, a teminal etc. will follow this > strange behavior. Cannot get out of it until I kill the session. On starting > a new session all is well again....until... it does it again. > > Anybody have any wild ideas about this ??? > > Bob S > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked > Knowledge Systems (NKS). 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From owner-slug-track29 Tue Aug 11 22:56:07 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7C2u71l028157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:56:07 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7C2u6UN028154 for slug-track29; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:56:06 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7C2u6Na028150 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:56:06 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx184.postini.com [74.125.149.165]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7C2u5Pr022381 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:56:05 -0400 Received: from source ([216.253.133.145]) by na3sys009amx184.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:56:05 CDT Received: from easystreet.home (*authenticated* [96.254.85.249] rnr@sanctum.com) by SANCTUM.COM with ESMTP (IOA-IPAD 6.19q) id 3EWP000 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:56:02 -0400 From: Bob Stia Organization: Easystreet To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Strange Caps behavior Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:56:01 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200908102335.43189.rnr@sanctum.com> <303706540908102131h2a35517m975b53236ee034ab@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908112256.02232.rnr@sanctum.com> X-SANCTUM.COM-AS: au:1 mx:-1 es:0 sc:0+0 ap:0 ex:1 X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net On Tuesday 11 August 2009 00:57:14 Eben King wrote: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, draeath wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Bob Stia wrote: > >> Hello Sluggers, > >> > >> Wondering is anyone else has seen this stange behavior. > >> > >> While I am in the middle of typing a document the fonts will suddenly go > >> from lower case to capital, and NO I don't accidentlt hit the "Caps" > >> key, and there is no indicator light on the keyboard. Then I must hit > >> the "Caps" key, get the indicator light and the fonts are displayed as > >> lower case. The shift key will work but it is now opposite. > >> > >> From that point on every app, kwrite, Firefox, a teminal etc. will > >> follow this strange behavior. Cannot get out of it until I kill the > >> session. On starting a new session all is well again....until... it does > >> it again. > >> > >> Anybody have any wild ideas about this ??? > > > > Are you using xmodmap at all? It's possible some key or key > > combination got assigned to capslock's function? > No, not that I know of,anyway. > 'xmodmap -pm | grep Caps_Lock' should tell you what's mapped to Caps_Lock. > 1st column is the key name. "lock" is the key normally bound to it. You > can also try pressing shift-q, ctrl-q, alt-q, winkey-q, rightmousekey-q, > shift-w, etc through each printing key to see when it happens. I hope that > finds it, because there are 10 2-modifier and 10 3-modifier combinations > for each key, I would guess something with the winkey as it's something > you might not hit on purpose. Tried all of the combinations you suggested. No good. Below is result of suggested command. bob@Easystreet:~> xmodmap -pm | grep Caps_Lock lock Caps_Lock (0x42) Keep thinking guys, and thanks. Bob S ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Sun Aug 16 21:33:09 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7H1X9IR019960 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:33:09 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7H1X9IO019957 for slug-track29; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:33:09 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7H1X8Rp019953 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:33:08 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx168.postini.com [74.125.149.94]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7H1X5PI018441 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:33:06 -0400 Received: from source ([216.180.234.5]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009amx168.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:33:06 CDT Received: from pool-71-180-158-206.tampfl.fios.verizon.net ([71.180.158.206]:4380 helo=pokey.mars.lan) by haylee.gendns10.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mcr5t-000200-AW; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:33:05 -0400 Received: from sherman.mars.lan (sherman.mars.lan [192.168.10.3]) by pokey.mars.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053C2E81CB; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:33:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sherman.mars.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E946D127510; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:33:01 -0400 (EDT) To: slug@nks.net, slug-announce@nks.net, cola@stump.algebra.com Subject: [SLUG] Suncoast LUG Meetings Message-Id: <20090817013301.E946D127510@sherman.mars.lan> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:33:01 -0400 (EDT) From: paulf@quillandmouse.com (Paul M Foster) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - haylee.gendns10.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - nks.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - quillandmouse.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S: 8.01310/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [66/3] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net ************************************* * Suncoast Linux Users Group (SLUG) * * Meeting Schedule * ************************************* TAMPA **************************************************** 8 September 19:00-21:00 Tampa (Usually Tuesday, usually first half of month) Hillsborough Community College Dale Mabry Campus Technology Bldg, Rm 426 4001 Tampa Bay Blvd Tampa, FL See http://www.hccfl.edu/pollock/Docs/DM-Map.htm for directions. *********************************************************** ACTIVITIES: Meetings may include: 1) Presentation: As indicated. 2) Question & Answer Session. 3) Raffle and free stuff! 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From owner-slug-track29 Mon Aug 17 22:01:46 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7I21j5T031439 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:01:46 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7I21jci031425 for slug-track29; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:01:45 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7I21is7031421 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:01:44 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx227.postini.com [74.125.149.111]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7I21heZ017252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:01:44 -0400 Received: from source ([216.180.234.5]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009amx227.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:01:44 EDT Received: from pool-71-180-158-206.tampfl.fios.verizon.net ([71.180.158.206]:1723 helo=pokey.mars.lan) by haylee.gendns10.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MdE19-0002SE-0r for slug@nks.net; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:01:43 -0400 Received: from sherman.mars.lan (sherman.mars.lan [192.168.10.3]) by pokey.mars.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF739E81CB for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sherman.mars.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7C44F127510; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:01:39 -0400 From: Paul M Foster To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Masquerading as another user on boot Message-ID: <20090818020139.GF2555@quillandmouse.com> Mail-Followup-To: slug@nks.net References: <20090811020932.GD32060@quillandmouse.com> <4A80DB5C.1000604@mathey.org> <20090811025706.GH32060@quillandmouse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - haylee.gendns10.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - nks.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - quillandmouse.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:28:03PM -0400, Eben King wrote: > On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Paul M Foster wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:45:48PM -0400, Chris Mathey wrote: >> >>> Paul M Foster wrote: >>>> I just set up a centralized mailserver for our network. As configured, a >>>> fetchmail process runs as a daemon for each user. (Fetchmail run as a >>>> single, central daemon dumps email into /var/mail/fetchmail, instead of >>>> the individual spool files.) If I have to restart that system for some >>>> reason, I'd like a way to restart the individual fetchmail daemons (all >>>> two of them). But they run under the UID of the individual users who >>>> issue the fetchmail command. Rather than having to ssh into that server >>>> as each user and issue a fetchmail command, I'd like a way (preferably a >>>> script) which will lauch the two fetchmail instances as the individual >>>> users without my intervention. I know, tall order. >>>> >>>> Any ideas? >>>> >>>> >>> If you are running fetchamil in daemon mode then all you need is >>> /etc/fetchmailrc. Add "poll" for each user. >>> If a users wants to set up an individual one then they can create their >>> own file in ~/ >> >> Here's the problem: unless you use "multidrop mode", which is hairy and >> which I don't fully understand, if you just run a central fetchmail >> daemon, the mail dumps into /var/mail/fetchmail. What I need instead is >> for mail for me to end up in /var/mail/paulf and mail for Nancy to end >> up in /var/mail/nancyf. Hence the need for two separate user-launched >> fetchmail daemons. > > First guess: > > /bin/foo: > ,-- > | #! /bin/sh > | for user in $( | if [ -e ~"$user"/.fetchmail ] ; then > | # whatever > | else > | sudo "$user" -c $FETCHMAIL_DAEMON_COMMAND_FOR_$user # & if required > | fi > | done > '-- > > /var/bar: > ,-- > | user1 > | user2 > ... > '-- Good start. Actual code: #!/bin/bash for user in joe tom ; do if [ -e /home/"$user"/.fetchmailrc ] ; then sudo -u $user fetchmail else echo "User $user has no fetchmailrc" fi done Paul -- Paul M. 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From owner-slug-track29 Thu Aug 20 12:36:17 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7KGaHXh006797 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:36:17 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7KGaHux006794 for slug-track29; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:36:17 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7KGaGIU006790 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:36:16 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx253.postini.com [74.125.149.137]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7KGaFJK026543 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:36:15 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.220.217]) by na3sys009amx253.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:36:16 MST Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so18314fxm.13 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:36:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.135 with SMTP id s7mr623313hba.143.1250786173807; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:36:13 -0400 Message-ID: <2d9aa67f0908200936x424d38d2g3de3ecec350ac91c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [SLUG] Unix password hashes From: Dylan William Hardison To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:58.95900/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:88.1613 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net Anyone know where the password field of /etc/shadow is documented? I'm using libnss-extrausers and I need to be able to generate correct hashes for my supplemental shadow file. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Thu Aug 20 12:52:11 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7KGqBCT009003 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:52:11 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7KGqBRi009000 for slug-track29; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:52:11 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7KGqApV008996 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:52:10 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx254.postini.com [74.125.149.138]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7KGq9GX002073 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:52:10 -0400 Received: from source ([206.46.173.9]) by na3sys009amx254.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:52:10 PDT Received: from news.home ([71.180.243.188]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KOO00B5ZPIRRUP0@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for slug@nks.net; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:52:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:52:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Eben King X-X-Sender: eben@pc.home To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Unix password hashes In-reply-to: <2d9aa67f0908200936x424d38d2g3de3ecec350ac91c@mail.gmail.com> Message-id: References: <2d9aa67f0908200936x424d38d2g3de3ecec350ac91c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-GetARealMailreader: [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Dylan William Hardison wrote: > Anyone know where the password field of /etc/shadow is documented? I'm > using libnss-extrausers and I need to be able to generate correct > hashes for my supplemental shadow file. You can reverse-engineer a lot of it by adding a user and filling in all the slots, e.g. "office number". As for official documentation, no idea. Try the source to /bin/login. -- I firmly believed we should not march into Baghdad ...To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make ... a latter-day Arab hero assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator[.] -- GHWB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Thu Aug 20 13:00:26 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7KH0Pdh010212 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:00:25 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7KH0PfF010209 for slug-track29; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:00:25 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7KH0O37010205 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:00:24 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx180.postini.com [74.125.149.161]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7KH0Mgp004424 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:00:23 -0400 Received: from source ([71.74.56.124]) by na3sys009amx180.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:00:23 PDT Received: from glaive ([97.106.103.29]) by hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090820170017838.VCBX16218@hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:00:21 +0000 Received: from leebc by glaive with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MeAzk-0002fz-KI for slug@nks.net; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:00:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:00:12 -0400 From: blee2@tampabay.rr.com To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Unix password hashes Message-ID: <20090820170012.GQ25474@glaive.dhs.org> References: <2d9aa67f0908200936x424d38d2g3de3ecec350ac91c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2d9aa67f0908200936x424d38d2g3de3ecec350ac91c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:70.32971/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:88.1613 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net Thus Dylan William Hardison hast written on Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:36:13PM -0400, and, according to prophecy, it shall come to pass that: > Anyone know where the password field of /etc/shadow is documented? I'm > using libnss-extrausers and I need to be able to generate correct > hashes for my supplemental shadow file. man shadow: The password field must be filled. The encrypted password consists of 13 to 24 characters from the 64 character alphabet a thru z, A thru Z, 0 thru 9, \. and /. Optionally it can start with a "$" character. This means the encrypted password was generated using another (not DES) algorithm. For example if it starts with "$1$" it means the MD5-based algorithm was used. Refer to crypt(3) for details on how this string is interpreted. man 3 crypt: No manual entry for crypt in section 3 Google results: http://linux.die.net/man/3/crypt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Thu Aug 20 13:13:24 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7KHDOQa011991 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:13:24 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7KHDOc4011988 for slug-track29; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:13:24 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7KHDNHo011984 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:13:23 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx166.postini.com [74.125.149.92]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7KHDMhn008158 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:13:22 -0400 Received: from source ([216.9.248.53]) by na3sys009amx166.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:13:23 CDT Received: from bda398.bisx.prod.on.blackberry (bda398.bisx.prod.on.blackberry [172.20.234.98]) by srs.bis.na.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n7KHD6rY019568 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:13:06 GMT Received: from bda398.bisx.prod.on.blackberry (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bda398.bisx.prod.on.blackberry (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n7KHDICn026435 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:13:18 GMT X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 406194476 Message-ID: <406194476-1250788397-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-403330125-@bxe1021.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Unix password hashes From: "Scott Grizzard" Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:13:17 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:88.1613 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:0.0020) s cv gt3 GT2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by slug-list-00.nks.net id n7KHDOHn011985 Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net ------Original Message------ From: Eben King To: slug@nks.net ReplyTo: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Unix password hashes Sent: Aug 20, 2009 11:52 AM On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Dylan William Hardison wrote: > Anyone know where the password field of /etc/shadow is documented? I'm > using libnss-extrausers and I need to be able to generate correct > hashes for my supplemental shadow file. You can reverse-engineer a lot of it by adding a user and filling in all the slots, e.g. "office number". As for official documentation, no idea. Try the source to /bin/login. -- I firmly believed we should not march into Baghdad ...To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make ... a latter-day Arab hero assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator[.] -- GHWB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. - Scott Grizzard scott@scottgrizzard.com http://www.scottgrizzard.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Thu Aug 20 13:25:28 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7KHPSDZ013733 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:25:28 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7KHPSVb013730 for slug-track29; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:25:28 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7KHPRIw013726 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:25:27 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx198.postini.com [74.125.149.234]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7KHPNpB012488 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:25:23 -0400 Received: from source ([216.9.248.52]) by na3sys009amx198.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:25:23 PDT Received: from bda398.bisx.prod.on.blackberry (bda398.bisx.prod.on.blackberry [172.20.234.98]) by srs.bis.na.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n7KHQ59N028351 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:26:05 GMT Received: from bda398.bisx.prod.on.blackberry (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bda398.bisx.prod.on.blackberry (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n7KHPIET012872 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:25:18 GMT X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 346371914 Message-ID: <346371914-1250789117-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2063060737-@bxe1021.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] Unix password hashes From: "Scott Grizzard" Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:25:16 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:87.32869/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:88.1613 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:0.0020) s cv gt3 GT2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net ------Original Message------ From: Dylan William Hardison To: slug@nks.net ReplyTo: slug@nks.net Subject: [SLUG] Unix password hashes Sent: Aug 20, 2009 11:36 AM Anyone know where the password field of /etc/shadow is documented? I'm using libnss-extrausers and I need to be able to generate correct hashes for my supplemental shadow file. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. - Scott Grizzard scott@scottgrizzard.com http://www.scottgrizzard.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Thu Aug 20 13:29:22 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7KHTMQ0014282 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:29:22 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7KHTMxZ014279 for slug-track29; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:29:22 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7KHTLkx014275 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:29:21 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx205.postini.com [74.125.149.45]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7KHTKWk013773 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:29:21 -0400 Received: from source ([198.49.244.31]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009amx205.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:29:21 PDT Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by new.owlriver.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7KHTHqw027307 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:29:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:29:17 -0400 (EDT) From: R P Herrold To: slug@nks.net Subject: [SLUG] Unix password hashes In-Reply-To: <2d9aa67f0908200936x424d38d2g3de3ecec350ac91c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <2d9aa67f0908200936x424d38d2g3de3ecec350ac91c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LRH 1167 2008-08-23) X-M: Go Blue X-GnuPG-GPG-Key-ID: 0x9B649644 X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x7BFB98B9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (new.owlriver.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:29:18 -0400 (EDT) X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:76.81218/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:88.1613 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Dylan William Hardison wrote: > Anyone know where the password field of /etc/shadow is documented? I'm > using libnss-extrausers and I need to be able to generate correct > hashes for my supplemental shadow file. ummm man 5 shadow ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Thu Aug 20 14:51:53 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7KIpqAN025797 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:51:53 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7KIpqp1025783 for slug-track29; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:51:52 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7KIpqpf025779 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:51:52 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx203.postini.com [74.125.149.43]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7KIpolJ004433 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:51:51 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.218.219]) by na3sys009amx203.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:51:51 PDT Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so94621bwz.13 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:51:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.196 with SMTP id u4mr12601hbu.114.1250794309151; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:51:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090820170012.GQ25474@glaive.dhs.org> References: <2d9aa67f0908200936x424d38d2g3de3ecec350ac91c@mail.gmail.com> <20090820170012.GQ25474@glaive.dhs.org> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:51:49 -0400 Message-ID: <2d9aa67f0908201151j30006505n44c128ead6e97cb0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Unix password hashes From: Dylan William Hardison To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:89.96060/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:88.1613 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by slug-list-00.nks.net id n7KIpqpe025780 Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net I wasn't aware that crypt(3) was as smart as it is. I'll be using crypt($pw, '$5$' . rand()) and having pam_unix default to sha256 as well. :-D On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:00 PM, wrote: > Thus Dylan William Hardison hast written on Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:36:13PM -0400, and, according to prophecy, it shall come to pass that: >> Anyone know where the password field of /etc/shadow is documented? I'm >> using libnss-extrausers and I need to be able to generate correct >> hashes for my supplemental shadow file. > > man shadow: > >        The password field must be filled. The encrypted password consists >        of 13 to 24 characters from the 64 character alphabet a thru z, >        A thru Z, 0 thru 9, \. and /. Optionally it can start with a >        "$" character.  This means the encrypted password was generated >        using another (not DES) algorithm. For example if it starts with >        "$1$" it means the MD5-based algorithm was used. > >        Refer to crypt(3) for details on how this string is interpreted. > > > man 3 crypt: > >        No manual entry for crypt in section 3 > > > > Google results: >        http://linux.die.net/man/3/crypt > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked > Knowledge Systems (NKS).  Views and opinions expressed in messages > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Fri Aug 21 06:14:43 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7LAEhJf025488 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:14:43 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7LAEhfN025485 for slug-track29; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:14:43 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7LAEgFk025481 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:14:42 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx172.postini.com [74.125.149.98]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7LAEeSs003150 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:14:40 -0400 Received: from source ([74.125.92.25]) by na3sys009amx172.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:14:41 GMT Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so347498qwb.1 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yeEngiGhrFWQs0dHui2U90oJrAlv+i/F9mXMXPg8CQc=; b=I7NtgQKSzipJzpKnT60FkxG/tgp4niGkxwGX3K2cNoZswxeu2tUtri5NVIhrAVXWE2 sKKUpTl6YlvZY1wNldAAqhf9hKhotOOChrKLyn+G2NjBOY/sPaP2GJaAdVz3k25e3HNN 9kqkNOCc0vf76+wRG/KlvvG3IuTFm0prPrN94= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=R5EjGRPLFjGTmVGuH37/MJWW1J6W1Ei1OEJ6FH9hRW5ISJ8Ns3i0VzzhRKboEL7yQw lPg5hHVZ+6INSK4BRtLPb+TQ2SiOQvxKyyboct5eYCgVXrEoYd9DTU0lH45JEUTQPu5k GZq/dHbH7+BLIX4X9TbeRMPQWMIcz3C44RL0I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.41.13 with SMTP id m13mr156861qce.85.1250849679758; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:14:39 -0400 Message-ID: <303706540908210314m1b03a5d8ue12319f42b4c7154@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [SLUG] regex (for spam filtering in pan) From: draeath To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:17.89552/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from forward (user good) [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net Fellow sluggers, I need your help. I want to build a regex that would match an email in the form "NAME " Now, let me try to explain how I want the match to work. Maybe you can help me build a working regex, I couldn't figure it out Given ABCDE A = any alpha string or two alpha strings seperated by a space ("John Doe" or "John" but not "John A Doe" or "J4ne Doe") B = Single space char C = less-than (<) char D = any length alpha-only string, followed by either 2 digits or 4 digits (ie, "john02 or "john2002" but not "power2you") E = "@gmail.com>" An example address: "Stupid Spammer " > > Now, let me try to explain how I want the match to work. Maybe you can > help me build a working regex, I couldn't figure it out > > Given ABCDE > > A = any alpha string or two alpha strings seperated by a space ("John > Doe" or "John" but not "John A Doe" or "J4ne Doe") > B = Single space char > C = less-than (<) char > D = any length alpha-only string, followed by either 2 digits or 4 > digits (ie, "john02 or "john2002" but not "power2you") > E = "@gmail.com>" > > An example address: "Stupid Spammer A = "Stupid Spammer" > B = " " > C = "<" > D = "lovespam04" > E = "@gmail.com> > > Example matching addresses: > John Doe (both parts match) > John (both parts match) > > Example non-matching addresses: > draeath (NAME matches but ADDR does not) > John Q Doe (ADDR matches, but NAME does not) > J4ne Doe (neither match) > > Getting this right will allow me to score down google groups spammers > on usenet, while leaving most 'normal' people alone. Note that lots of mail comes from gmail (my friend's, for example) unrelated to GG. That said, how about '^[A-Za-z]*( [A-Za-z]*){,1}<[A-Za-z]([0-9][0-9]){,1}([0-9][0-9]){,1}@gmail\.com>$' It may need some extra backslashes. I'm not sure which characters are special and which aren't. -- "On two occasions I have been asked, -- 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." -- Charles Babbage, 1864. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Fri Aug 21 14:39:19 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7LIdJNA031438 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:39:19 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7LIdJnw031435 for slug-track29; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:39:19 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7LIdIwr031431 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:39:18 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx220.postini.com [74.125.149.60]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7LIdGJb030254 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:39:17 -0400 Received: from source ([74.125.92.26]) by na3sys009amx220.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:39:18 PDT Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so538159qwb.1 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=C6OOnIVF+d5dqENHMQWYbl42vXqSz0z9hB+kE892/FY=; b=C1tGPgkQY4b9dGVKP15h2/WRiHiAJkkgLJRLQtT4RP2WKSP4lZ2caHNoNtGgj6DL4Q SW68qVqWaA2bpaoC+Su2JeJWvfQSE+OsokuDbe5+pN0A64RUNEZ9x6lLR0WaKImt2UKf wjIzRTCXiP9y69Ttq3v3CZjFKgH3CwQ6IOaO4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oXaXaRla+9TA6JC3QviBehNPuptXmzUHupB27eolxG8+RlaxmlDlu6e4f5TuyRDelj u/VMT4b0u9xsAhGFbWeRT+6qpmfvsdyNFcAJsCVFAqxpJcANebCwWgEWmQzSNSc4Aitd HHwN8dtsPLMiTsF1+jVC1LI7TMxCibgxeUYLw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.34.20 with SMTP id j20mr395620qcd.26.1250879956182; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <303706540908210314m1b03a5d8ue12319f42b4c7154@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:39:16 -0400 Message-ID: <303706540908211139u6a1d0639q839bb4afe64ba889@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SLUG] regex (for spam filtering in pan) From: draeath To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:98.23308/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from forward (user good) [97/4] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by slug-list-00.nks.net id n7LIdIwq031432 Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net Thanks! Yea, I know... but it's that particular combination. Anyways, I'm just going to downscore it enough to make it easy to skip, but without hiding (so I'll still see followups etc) On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Eben King wrote: > On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, draeath wrote: > >> Fellow sluggers, I need your help. >> >> I want to build a regex that would match an email in the form "NAME >> " >> >> Now, let me try to explain how I want the match to work. Maybe you can >> help me build a working regex, I couldn't figure it out >> >> Given ABCDE >> >> A = any alpha string or two alpha strings seperated by a space ("John >> Doe" or "John" but not "John A Doe" or "J4ne Doe") >> B = Single space char >> C = less-than (<) char >> D = any length alpha-only string, followed by either 2 digits or 4 >> digits (ie, "john02 or "john2002" but not "power2you") >> E = "@gmail.com>" >> >> An example address: "Stupid Spammer > A = "Stupid Spammer" >> B = " " >> C = "<" >> D = "lovespam04" >> E = "@gmail.com> >> >> Example matching addresses: >> John Doe (both parts match) >> John (both parts match) >> >> Example non-matching addresses: >> draeath (NAME matches but ADDR does not) >> John Q Doe (ADDR matches, but NAME does not) >> J4ne Doe (neither match) >> >> Getting this right will allow me to score down google groups spammers >> on usenet, while leaving most 'normal' people alone. > > Note that lots of mail comes from gmail (my friend's, for example) unrelated > to GG. > > That said, how about '^[A-Za-z]*( > [A-Za-z]*){,1}<[A-Za-z]([0-9][0-9]){,1}([0-9][0-9]){,1}@gmail\.com>$' > > It may need some extra backslashes.  I'm not sure which characters are > special and which aren't. > > -- > "On two occasions I have been asked, -- 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put > into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' > ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas > that could provoke such a question." -- Charles Babbage, 1864. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked > Knowledge Systems (NKS).  Views and opinions expressed in messages > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Sat Aug 22 14:32:28 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7MIWSWV005169 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:32:28 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7MIWSEf005165 for slug-track29; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:32:28 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7MIWRcP005151 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:32:27 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx220.postini.com [74.125.149.60]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7MIWQXe008564 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:32:27 -0400 Received: from source ([206.46.173.5]) by na3sys009amx220.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:32:27 PDT Received: from news.home ([71.180.243.188]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KOS00EO6JHXHGP7@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for slug@nks.net; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:32:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:32:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Eben King X-X-Sender: eben@pc.home To: SLUG Mailing List Subject: [SLUG] redoing DHCP Message-id: User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-GetARealMailreader: [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net I have a VM in vmplayer. When it was last booted, it got an address via DHCP. Eventually I suspended the OS and exited the VM, and the router released the address. But next time the VM was resumed it continued using the same address. By this time it had already been given out again by the router. This has happened before. How do I force Linux to retry DHCP? ifdown/ifup? -- -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81 An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all. -Oscar Wilde ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Sat Aug 22 16:39:14 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7MKdEY0022851 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:39:14 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7MKdEJd022848 for slug-track29; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:39:14 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7MKdDHR022844 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:39:13 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx218.postini.com [74.125.149.58]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7MKdC5Y000346 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:39:13 -0400 Received: from source ([75.180.132.123]) by na3sys009amx218.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:39:13 GMT Received: from Darth ([68.205.9.122]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090822203911569.XLCA8845@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:39:11 +0000 From: "Ken Elliott" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [SLUG] redoing DHCP Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:39:14 -0400 Message-ID: <001601ca2368$9d0aebb0$d720c310$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcojVv8/2LxKQDXHQkaXs1/J5JMtNwAEYn3Q Content-Language: en-us X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net Why use DHCP? I'd suggest a fixed address and reserve it in DHCP so you don't get a conflict. Ken Elliott ===================== -----Original Message----- From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of Eben King Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:32 PM To: SLUG Mailing List Subject: [SLUG] redoing DHCP I have a VM in vmplayer. When it was last booted, it got an address via DHCP. Eventually I suspended the OS and exited the VM, and the router released the address. But next time the VM was resumed it continued using the same address. By this time it had already been given out again by the router. This has happened before. How do I force Linux to retry DHCP? ifdown/ifup? -- -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81 An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all. -Oscar Wilde ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). 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From owner-slug-track29 Sat Aug 22 16:55:48 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7MKtmTI025158 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:55:48 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7MKtmAK025155 for slug-track29; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:55:48 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7MKtlN9025151 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:55:47 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx250.postini.com [74.125.149.134]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7MKtknQ003516 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:55:47 -0400 Received: from source ([206.46.173.1]) by na3sys009amx250.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:55:47 EDT Received: from news.home ([71.180.243.188]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KOS00506Q4TH2J3@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for slug@nks.net; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:55:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:55:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Eben King X-X-Sender: eben@pc.home To: slug@nks.net Subject: RE: [SLUG] redoing DHCP In-reply-to: <001601ca2368$9d0aebb0$d720c310$@rr.com> Message-id: References: <001601ca2368$9d0aebb0$d720c310$@rr.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-GetARealMailreader: [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Ken Elliott wrote: > Eben King wrote on Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:32 PM > > > I have a VM in vmplayer. When it was last booted, it got an address via > > DHCP. Eventually I suspended the OS and exited the VM, and the router > > released the address. But next time the VM was resumed it continued > > using the same address. By this time it had already been given out > > again by the router. This has happened before. How do I force Linux to > > retry DHCP? ifdown/ifup? > Why use DHCP? I'd suggest a fixed address and reserve it in DHCP so you > don't get a conflict. It was going to be DHCP-assigned fixed addresses, but I made a typo entering somewhere in the (IP, MAC) pair, and the crappy router software won't let you fix or delete a mapping until it is active, which it'll never be because there's a typo on it. $%*^. But I'd rather have a centralized location from which I can employ a new NIC -> IP mapping than have to run around to all the computers. Never mind that there are several transient computers which may not get the word. -- -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81 Two atoms are discussing whether or not to go into a bar. The first atom says, "I don't know about this place. Last time I went in there, I lost an electron." The second atom says, "Don't worry, I'll keep my ion you." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Sat Aug 22 17:08:40 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7ML8era027006 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:08:40 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7ML8eFL027003 for slug-track29; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:08:40 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7ML8d5V026999 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:08:39 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx218.postini.com [74.125.149.58]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7ML8cCi005671 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:08:38 -0400 Received: from source ([75.180.132.121]) by na3sys009amx218.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:08:38 CDT Received: from Darth ([68.205.9.122]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090822210837257.RASI29812@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:08:37 +0000 From: "Ken Elliott" To: References: <001601ca2368$9d0aebb0$d720c310$@rr.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [SLUG] redoing DHCP Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:08:40 -0400 Message-ID: <001701ca236c$b97f2c80$2c7d8580$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acojavu2t70F/8+jSUWeP7FL5hIDzgAAW7Aw Content-Language: en-us X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net >> It was going to be DHCP-assigned fixed addresses, but I made a typo entering somewhere in the (IP, MAC) pair, and the crappy router software won't let you fix or delete a mapping until it is active, which it'll never be because there's a typo on it. No problem. That means the router will reserve the address, so you can simply use that address as a static address in the VM. The MAC address won't matter, and you won't have to run around changing anything. Ken Elliott ===================== -----Original Message----- From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of Eben King Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:56 PM To: slug@nks.net Subject: RE: [SLUG] redoing DHCP On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Ken Elliott wrote: > Eben King wrote on Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:32 PM > > > I have a VM in vmplayer. When it was last booted, it got an address via > > DHCP. Eventually I suspended the OS and exited the VM, and the router > > released the address. But next time the VM was resumed it continued > > using the same address. By this time it had already been given out > > again by the router. This has happened before. How do I force Linux to > > retry DHCP? ifdown/ifup? > Why use DHCP? I'd suggest a fixed address and reserve it in DHCP so you > don't get a conflict. It was going to be DHCP-assigned fixed addresses, but I made a typo entering somewhere in the (IP, MAC) pair, and the crappy router software won't let you fix or delete a mapping until it is active, which it'll never be because there's a typo on it. $%*^. But I'd rather have a centralized location from which I can employ a new NIC -> IP mapping than have to run around to all the computers. Never mind that there are several transient computers which may not get the word. -- -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Sun Aug 23 00:13:14 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7N4DEdh021479 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:13:14 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7N4DEHP021476 for slug-track29; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:13:14 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7N4DEko021472 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:13:14 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx218.postini.com [74.125.149.58]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7N4DDcF014753 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:13:13 -0400 Received: from source ([216.180.234.5]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009amx218.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:13:13 PDT Received: from pool-71-180-158-206.tampfl.fios.verizon.net ([71.180.158.206]:2319 helo=pokey.mars.lan) by haylee.gendns10.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mf4S8-00032j-Ib for slug@nks.net; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:13:12 -0400 Received: from sherman.mars.lan (sherman.mars.lan [192.168.10.3]) by pokey.mars.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCF2E81CF for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sherman.mars.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3205D127510; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:13:09 -0400 From: Paul M Foster To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] redoing DHCP Message-ID: <20090823041309.GK3193@quillandmouse.com> Mail-Followup-To: slug@nks.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - haylee.gendns10.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - nks.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - quillandmouse.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net <001601ca2368$9d0aebb0$d720c310$@rr.com> <001701ca236c$b97f2c80$2c7d8580$@rr.com> In-Reply-To: <001701ca236c$b97f2c80$2c7d8580$@rr.com> (This post was caught by Majordomo, as it looked like an administrative request.) ----- Forwarded message from slug@nks.net ----- Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:23:31 -0400 From: Paul Bransford FYI, most systems let you ch*nge the MAC *ddress via software. Look up the software 'macchanger' (at least if memory serves right, that's the package name for debian-like systems) If you have a few clues as to what the typo is, you can change your MAC and rerun DHCP until you find it...? Ken Elliott wrote: >>> It was going to be DHCP-assigned fixed addresses, but I made a typo > entering somewhere in the (IP, MAC) pair, and the crappy router software > won't let you fix or delete a mapping until it is active, which it'll never > be because there's a typo on it. > > No problem. That means the router will reserve the address, so you can > simply use that address as a static address in the VM. The MAC address > won't matter, and you won't have to run around changing anything. > > > Ken Elliott > ===================== > > > -----Original Message----- > From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of Eben King > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:56 PM > To: slug@nks.net > Subject: RE: [SLUG] redoing DHCP > > On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Ken Elliott wrote: > >> Eben King wrote on Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:32 PM >> >>> I have a VM in vmplayer. When it was last booted, it got an address via > >>> DHCP. Eventually I suspended the OS and exited the VM, and the router >>> released the address. But next time the VM was resumed it continued >>> using the same address. By this time it had already been given out >>> again by the router. This has happened before. How do I force Linux to > >>> retry DHCP? ifdown/ifup? > >> Why use DHCP? I'd suggest a fixed address and reserve it in DHCP so you >> don't get a conflict. > > It was going to be DHCP-assigned fixed addresses, but I made a typo entering > > somewhere in the (IP, MAC) pair, and the crappy router software won't let > you fix or delete a mapping until it is active, which it'll never be because > > there's a typo on it. $%*^. But I'd rather have a centralized location > from which I can employ a new NIC -> IP mapping than have to run around to > all the computers. Never mind that there are several transient computers > which may not get the word. > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Paul M. Foster ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Sun Aug 23 12:00:21 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7NG0LiK023518 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:00:21 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7NG0L0s023515 for slug-track29; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:00:21 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7NG0KL8023511 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:00:20 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx258.postini.com [74.125.149.142]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7NG09dQ015193 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:00:09 -0400 Received: from source ([216.180.234.5]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009amx258.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:00:10 PDT Received: from pool-71-180-158-206.tampfl.fios.verizon.net ([71.180.158.206]:1858 helo=pokey.mars.lan) by haylee.gendns10.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MfFUG-0007r7-Dp; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:00:08 -0400 Received: from sherman.mars.lan (sherman.mars.lan [192.168.10.3]) by pokey.mars.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F418E81CF; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sherman.mars.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 469C9127510; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:00:05 -0400 (EDT) To: slug@nks.net, slug-announce@nks.net, cola@stump.algebra.com Subject: [SLUG] Suncoast LUG Meetings Message-Id: <20090823160005.469C9127510@sherman.mars.lan> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:00:05 -0400 (EDT) From: paulf@quillandmouse.com (Paul M Foster) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - haylee.gendns10.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - nks.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - quillandmouse.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S: 8.01310/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net ************************************* * Suncoast Linux Users Group (SLUG) * * Meeting Schedule * ************************************* TAMPA **************************************************** 8 September 19:00-21:00 Tampa (Usually Tuesday, usually first half of month) Hillsborough Community College Dale Mabry Campus Technology Bldg, Rm 426 4001 Tampa Bay Blvd Tampa, FL See http://www.hccfl.edu/pollock/Docs/DM-Map.htm for directions. *********************************************************** ACTIVITIES: Meetings may include: 1) Presentation: As indicated. 2) Question & Answer Session. 3) Raffle and free stuff! 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From owner-slug-track29 Sun Aug 23 12:33:20 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7NGXK9q028159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:33:20 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7NGXJ90028156 for slug-track29; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:33:19 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7NGXJBi028152 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:33:19 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx249.postini.com [74.125.149.133]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7NGXIQ8025460 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:33:18 -0400 Received: from source ([206.46.173.13]) by na3sys009amx249.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:33:18 PDT Received: from news.home ([71.180.243.188]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KOU006T78NEIUJ1@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for slug@nks.net; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:33:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:33:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Eben King X-X-Sender: eben@pc.home To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] redoing DHCP In-reply-to: <20090823041309.GK3193@quillandmouse.com> Message-id: References: <20090823041309.GK3193@quillandmouse.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-GetARealMailreader: [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:23:31 Paul Bransford wrote: > > FYI, most systems let you ch*nge the MAC *ddress via software. Look up > the software 'macchanger' (at least if memory serves right, that's the > package name for debian-like systems) Thanks, got it. > If you have a few clues as to what the typo is, No idea now. > you can change your MAC and rerun DHCP until you find it...? That's my main question -- how do you re-invoke DHCP and possibly get a new address? -- -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP http://royalty.mine.nu:81 CAPRICORN: The stars say you're an exciting and wonderful person... but you know they're lying. If I were you, I'd lock my doors and windows and never never never never never leave my house again. -- Weird Al ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Mon Aug 24 00:36:42 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7O4ag78032120 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:36:42 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7O4agl8032117 for slug-track29; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:36:42 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7O4aer1032102 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:36:40 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx221.postini.com [74.125.149.61]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7O4aZCO017650 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:36:36 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.210.199]) by na3sys009amx221.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:36:36 PDT Received: by yxe37 with SMTP id 37so1681656yxe.7 for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:36:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GYAF4cWFh6mSJTIfg/psEbFhVjIECWFvTr1f9zGvWtk=; b=ePXReBcLzr4ojJvnYDw5TJpzdlLWZCenKNxWiFyjugX9NTwhNEg9XPZgG/klAz5pPU 01MOIgQmDl/VhtQ1Oe/5ReO2U+lm44YuWjs6p+pz0EXoifqsRqgoJo0OCXL8OaNJ1AS/ Jj40XuI16P1dCwDOTUd/vdgH2FIX9k9gGi33M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dRBk1lonlZdJhZcMeJUX6mbIzcw/bYWetdv7gWjsJQ/AZ+Gqg2VvfUWMqNJTMLQ/Kc lYFcSwlQh4FtDU/+r+BnFI8f/j3akNfzmWCuysh93t/3Ri6psiy3GxEq0Miqo2J2qeSf SfJfRR9NmB/kU52Dyj1/9hAQ4c1MckvPOOL3A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.23.2 with SMTP id a2mr3991939anj.190.1251088594801; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:36:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20090823041309.GK3193@quillandmouse.com> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:36:34 -0400 Message-ID: <303706540908232136g1d088eedl8e674a629ad8480b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SLUG] redoing DHCP From: draeath To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:97.22769/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from forward (user good) [97/4] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by slug-list-00.nks.net id n7O4aer0032103 Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net That depends on what runs it. I find it usually is 'dhcpcd eth0' or 'dhclient eth0' - just type dhc and touble-tap the tab key and see what completion gives you for options. You may need to kill a process and/or remove a PID file - dhcpcd is a pain that way. On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Eben King wrote: > On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:23:31 Paul Bransford wrote: >> >> FYI, most systems let you ch*nge the MAC *ddress via software. Look up >> the software 'macchanger' (at least if memory serves right, that's the >> package name for debian-like systems) > > Thanks, got it. > >> If you have a few clues as to what the typo is, > > No idea now. > >> you can change your MAC and rerun DHCP until you find it...? > > That's my main question -- how do you re-invoke DHCP and possibly get a new > address? > > -- > -eben      QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP      http://royalty.mine.nu:81 > CAPRICORN:  The stars say you're an exciting and wonderful person... but > you know they're lying.  If I were you, I'd lock my doors and windows > and never never never never never leave my house again.  -- Weird Al > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked > Knowledge Systems (NKS).  Views and opinions expressed in messages > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). 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From owner-slug-track29 Mon Aug 24 01:48:30 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7O5mUbN009704 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:48:30 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7O5mUec009701 for slug-track29; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:48:30 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7O5mUoY009697 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:48:30 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx190.postini.com [74.125.149.171]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7O5mSpV003491 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:48:29 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.223.178]) by na3sys009amx190.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:48:29 PDT Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so873578iwn.7 for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:48:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GN+P1AYQNloc6uR2UA8xMIQnDEPRVODcgHe7ILKwSW8=; b=pePbR1TtpW5PNMUeleM6+pkm0HknP5UMsbPigkdfxp8RfcwT2QrQHvedZfwd5RcLMl FiTw3NH6Rqvk/46C4XTPAKlVwQkQFGXLNnzqcMjjVNDkVthQqjCLsJmne8RDFSVj4vTM P6nTYBahUfDD2hZtUzIbhhfY8uO81/GuiP+Pg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hMn2FXlR2c61oVqsivvaXxdZz+GSY6tzG0dm5I9QPAGLXWMlNFfsOce5tPzQGDGzu0 tB3lk3s5xR5fgC1om5GUViG3hL08oCdNwuasJInzBuF1oi+lMBWYgFW1AGdoHJHPaYD/ CvsOWQk7L39YZp8Gu6IgLAFksDK4ntlREE6P8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.19.197 with SMTP id c5mr1971524ibb.10.1251092908405; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:48:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <303706540908232136g1d088eedl8e674a629ad8480b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090823041309.GK3193@quillandmouse.com> <303706540908232136g1d088eedl8e674a629ad8480b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:48:28 -0400 Message-ID: <7cb80b4d0908232248u2eda77b4sbfe46c547cd2c543@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SLUG] redoing DHCP From: Antonio De Leon To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221532cdfc62f6ab0471dcc4fa X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net --00221532cdfc62f6ab0471dcc4fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit from the man page - dhcpcd could call dhcpcd -n or just type killall -ALRM for renewing the lease, but i dont know it the DHCP server will give out a new IP, sometimes my router dosent. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:36 AM, draeath wrote: > That depends on what runs it. I find it usually is 'dhcpcd eth0' or > 'dhclient eth0' - just type dhc and touble-tap the tab key and see > what completion gives you for options. You may need to kill a process > and/or remove a PID file - dhcpcd is a pain that way. > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Eben King wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:23:31 Paul Bransford wrote: > >> > >> FYI, most systems let you ch*nge the MAC *ddress via software. Look up > >> the software 'macchanger' (at least if memory serves right, that's the > >> package name for debian-like systems) > > > > Thanks, got it. > > > >> If you have a few clues as to what the typo is, > > > > No idea now. > > > >> you can change your MAC and rerun DHCP until you find it...? > > > > That's my main question -- how do you re-invoke DHCP and possibly get a > new > > address? > > > > -- > > -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP http://royalty.mine.nu:81 > > CAPRICORN: The stars say you're an exciting and wonderful person... but > > you know they're lying. If I were you, I'd lock my doors and windows > > and never never never never never leave my house again. -- Weird Al > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked > > Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages > > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the > > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked > Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. > -- Antonio De Leon --00221532cdfc62f6ab0471dcc4fa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable from the man page - dhcpcd

could call dhcpcd -n or just type killall= -ALRM for renewing the lease, but i dont know it the DHCP server will give= out a new IP,
sometimes my router dosent.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:36 AM, draeath <draeath@gmail.com> wrote:
That depends on what runs it. I find it usually is 'dhcpcd eth0' or=
'dhclient eth0' - just type dhc and touble-tap the tab key and see<= br> what completion gives you for options. You may need to kill a process
and/or remove a PID file - dhcpcd is a pain that way.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Eben King<eben01@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:23:31 Paul Bransford <draeath@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> FYI, most systems let you ch*nge the MAC *ddress via software. Loo= k up
>> the software 'macchanger' (at least if memory serves right= , that's the
>> package name for debian-like systems)
>
> Thanks, got it.
>
>> If you have a few clues as to what the typo is,
>
> No idea now.
>
>> you can change your MAC and rerun DHCP until you find it...?
>
> That's my main question -- how do you re-invoke DHCP and possibly = get a new
> address?
>
> --
> -eben =A0 =A0 =A0QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP =A0 =A0 =A0http://royalty.mine.nu:81 > CAPRICORN: =A0The stars say you're an exciting and wonderful perso= n... but
> you know they're lying. =A0If I were you, I'd lock my doors an= d windows
> and never never never never never leave my house again. =A0-- Weird Al=
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -
> This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked<= br> > Knowledge Systems (NKS). =A0Views and opinions expressed in messages > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the
> official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees.
>

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From owner-slug-track29 Mon Aug 24 04:23:23 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7O8NMMJ031723 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:23:22 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7O8NMQT031720 for slug-track29; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:23:22 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7O8NLqg031716 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:23:22 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx160.postini.com [74.125.149.86]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7O8NJkC008377 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:23:20 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.210.199]) by na3sys009amx160.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:23:20 GMT Received: by yxe37 with SMTP id 37so1762537yxe.7 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:23:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xE72M8U+i96GmZhO5BPwWYeUPITl5jf+IZtFYtr2uIw=; b=xK4oQboqRTOjJCLSqt8+1EsXgNmBse0tIk5VO0kV+I0zXmYOzPqGjC+pjlvHIwBCJy 2mwDLSpG0k14tmEYYO1MgQmMyAjumqN40SqYPb23RAYXbv+/tci6KJAPQ8AfrmKLk8bl ajDgy+NSsprbAt2Dm4ao515ZFKDW4rX4VkU8A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ry4KS99dDSv8sC+FxhhDO9Esw7nG/7mK26QUCXf+8imiRLrx/0nb+xNLWsaLjixA5q VLKXiXiDJb77LXrXkZi+1fqFNZpMCvPwBiq4dgQq2BIIqa5eeaplRrsebr7kWF9PS8CL xzmf3uMyIXHIvf1NJ2kf/06lUBjnvPBbdblUo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.23.2 with SMTP id a2mr4138229anj.190.1251102199051; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:23:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7cb80b4d0908232248u2eda77b4sbfe46c547cd2c543@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090823041309.GK3193@quillandmouse.com> <303706540908232136g1d088eedl8e674a629ad8480b@mail.gmail.com> <7cb80b4d0908232248u2eda77b4sbfe46c547cd2c543@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:23:19 -0400 Message-ID: <303706540908240123o34786bfcxdc92a4dc16de4f90@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SLUG] redoing DHCP From: draeath To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from forward (user good) [97/4] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by slug-list-00.nks.net id n7O8NMqf031717 Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net Well if he was changing his MAC, the DHCP server (in the router) would give a different lease. Not sure what would happen if you did a DHCP-release (that 'dhcpcd -n' would do) from a MAC that the lease wasn't assigned to. That would be server dependent. It could do anything from being harmless to confusing the router further. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Antonio De Leon wrote: > from the man page - dhcpcd > > could call dhcpcd -n or just type killall -ALRM for renewing the lease, but > i dont know it the DHCP server will give out a new IP, > sometimes my router dosent. > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:36 AM, draeath wrote: >> >> That depends on what runs it. I find it usually is 'dhcpcd eth0' or >> 'dhclient eth0' - just type dhc and touble-tap the tab key and see >> what completion gives you for options. You may need to kill a process >> and/or remove a PID file - dhcpcd is a pain that way. >> >> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Eben King wrote: >> > On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:23:31 Paul Bransford wrote: >> >> >> >> FYI, most systems let you ch*nge the MAC *ddress via software. Look up >> >> the software 'macchanger' (at least if memory serves right, that's the >> >> package name for debian-like systems) >> > >> > Thanks, got it. >> > >> >> If you have a few clues as to what the typo is, >> > >> > No idea now. >> > >> >> you can change your MAC and rerun DHCP until you find it...? >> > >> > That's my main question -- how do you re-invoke DHCP and possibly get a >> > new >> > address? >> > >> > -- >> > -eben      QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP      http://royalty.mine.nu:81 >> > CAPRICORN:  The stars say you're an exciting and wonderful person... but >> > you know they're lying.  If I were you, I'd lock my doors and windows >> > and never never never never never leave my house again.  -- Weird Al >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked >> > Knowledge Systems (NKS).  Views and opinions expressed in messages >> > posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the >> > official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. >> > >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked >> Knowledge Systems (NKS).  Views and opinions expressed in messages >> posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the >> official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. > > > > -- > Antonio De Leon > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). 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From owner-slug-track29 Mon Aug 24 17:07:58 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7OL7wle009087 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:07:58 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7OL7w69009073 for slug-track29; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:07:58 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7OL7vuO009069 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:07:58 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx199.postini.com [74.125.149.235]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7OL7uiK007230 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:07:57 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.220.217]) by na3sys009amx199.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:07:57 PDT Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so1838469fxm.13 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:07:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=GTsaPWThOzdFhavbtQFHO7KR8RgBtV2SFrmCdvoEU7k=; b=K7s4u3/Jxdv1YC8r3c76fF4jL7wfrKBe8vRHH0mrp0utXTIoLqcMIInDUmHcps8YgI uKJ3BLbFuj5JMabv4fscTIAXCUscEn6hHI+a5MKXYJyMP7Cm5kYLpb8suWkBVlrtqrvd ULG9eRkJMf7+hVcw/r1HVPmL0w1MUq4gPpgvY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QnSdtfaGSN9LYZ3pxc6KkUGW4Vr26/WcBEsPNvwV98s+I2IyaFMf7eqja0munoFkst YOJT4XqUcvKgorGeu29q2vepVNXG2ZV3kawk+g9mhmKkSxHmu9cbZFBoHhEX7s2SdKrb QhX7VioHJWM1MMkkGJe7ITduAnoecx8kKGjG8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.197 with SMTP id l5mr559719hbe.82.1251148075249; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:07:55 -0400 Message-ID: <9bbf448c0908241407j3ab2c07k8f4dd395c2afd406@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [SLUG] find command - script help From: Richard Tricoche To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163649a0219630eb0471e99c94 X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:21.25739/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net --00163649a0219630eb0471e99c94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I'm looking for a bit of help with a find command and would appreciate any help in advance. I need to find directories with the following 6 criteria: 1. directory 2. root owned 3. no sticky bit set 4. writable by everyone 5. not an NFS mount 6. don't follow symbolic links It's possible I may need to create a bash shell script for this, which I'd be happy to do. This will run only on LINUX servers. Again, any help is appreciated in advance. --00163649a0219630eb0471e99c94 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all,

I'm looking for a bit of help with a find= command and would=A0appreciate=A0any help in advance.

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I need to find directories with the following 6 criteria:
1.=A0directory
2. root owned
3. no sticky bi= t set
4.=A0writable=A0by everyone
5. not an NFS mount
6. don't follow symbolic links

It'= ;s possible I may need to create a bash shell script for this, which I'= d be happy to do.
This will run only on LINUX servers.

Again, a= ny help is appreciated in advance.

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From owner-slug-track29 Mon Aug 24 21:16:27 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7P1GR0w011423 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:16:27 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7P1GQv3011420 for slug-track29; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:16:26 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7P1GQX5011416 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:16:26 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx232.postini.com [74.125.149.116]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7P1GOdt021121 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:16:25 -0400 Received: from source ([67.78.158.35]) by na3sys009amx232.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:16:25 GMT Received: from mail.magna.net (mail.magna.net [192.168.10.144]) by linux.magna.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C0B4EC10F for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:16:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Forte To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] find command - script help In-Reply-To: <9bbf448c0908241407j3ab2c07k8f4dd395c2afd406@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <9bbf448c0908241407j3ab2c07k8f4dd395c2afd406@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LRH 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1463775222-1039050174-1251162983=:23768" X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:48.01116/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---1463775222-1039050174-1251162983=:23768 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT I am pretty sure this works. Could not test to see if it was find /tmp -gid 0 -xtype d -perm /u+w,g+w,o+w,o-t -printf "%F:%f" If you meant to include the symlink entry but not its contents then change xtype to type. find /tmp -gid 0 -type d -perm /u+w,g+w,o+w,o-t This does not take into accont the NFS file system so the try this. find / -gid 0 -xtype d -perm /u+w,g+w,o+w,o-t -printf "%F:%h/%f\n" | egrep -v '^nfs:' | awk -F: '{print $2}' --------------------------------------------------------------- Yours Truly James Forte, Magna Timeshare Software http://www.magna.net/ mailto:James@Magna.Net 1465 South Fort Harrison Ave#207, Clearwater FL 33756 East Coast 407-352-2402 West Coast 415-367-7496 UK +44 80 8178 8506 TrustFax:866-752-3073 THIS COMMUNICATION IS ONLY INTENDED FOR THE RECIPIENT(S) ABOVE. PLEASE DISCARD IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS IN ERROR. ----------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Richard Tricoche wrote: > Hello all, > I'm looking for a bit of help with a find command and would appreciate any help in advance. > > I need to find directories with the following 6 criteria: > > 1. directory > 2. root owned > 3. no sticky bit set > 4. writable by everyone > 5. not an NFS mount > 6. don't follow symbolic links > > It's possible I may need to create a bash shell script for this, which I'd be happy to do. > This will run only on LINUX servers. > > Again, any help is appreciated in advance. > > > ---1463775222-1039050174-1251162983=:23768-- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). 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From owner-slug-track29 Sun Aug 30 16:16:10 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7UKG9OU013816 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:16:09 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7UKG97P013813 for slug-track29; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:16:09 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7UKG9D5013809 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:16:09 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx201.postini.com [74.125.149.41]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7UKG7MM018034 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:16:08 -0400 Received: from source ([216.180.234.5]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009amx201.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:16:08 PDT Received: from pool-71-180-158-206.tampfl.fios.verizon.net ([71.180.158.206]:1094 helo=pokey.mars.lan) by haylee.gendns10.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mhqoo-00055a-Ck; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:16:06 -0400 Received: from sherman.mars.lan (sherman.mars.lan [192.168.10.3]) by pokey.mars.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1BCE827D; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:16:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sherman.mars.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1C69C127510; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:16:03 -0400 (EDT) To: slug@nks.net, slug-announce@nks.net, cola@stump.algebra.com Subject: [SLUG] Suncoast LUG Meetings Message-Id: <20090830201603.1C69C127510@sherman.mars.lan> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:16:03 -0400 (EDT) From: paulf@quillandmouse.com (Paul M Foster) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - haylee.gendns10.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - nks.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - quillandmouse.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S: 5.64052/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net ************************************* * Suncoast Linux Users Group (SLUG) * * Meeting Schedule * ************************************* TAMPA **************************************************** 10 September 19:00-21:00 Tampa (Usually Thursday, usually first half of month) Hillsborough Community College Dale Mabry Campus Technology Bldg, Rm 426 4001 Tampa Bay Blvd Tampa, FL See http://www.hccfl.edu/pollock/Docs/DM-Map.htm for directions. *********************************************************** ACTIVITIES: Meetings may include: 1) Presentation: As indicated. 2) Question & Answer Session. 3) Raffle and free stuff! 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From owner-slug-track29 Sun Aug 30 20:23:12 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7V0NC96016010 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:23:12 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7V0NCX4016007 for slug-track29; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:23:12 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7V0NBq6016003 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:23:11 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx203.postini.com [74.125.149.43]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7V0NA8A031775 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:23:10 -0400 Received: from source ([209.85.220.217]) by na3sys009amx203.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:23:11 GMT Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2741597fxm.13 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:23:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=r2iRNAs5bMgculcjk0mlt+zieiTzag3QQajuyevcJbo=; b=n4reUGTCSZQgp2KZwEzv49sJzVgiMcCSpkw05dUEtX1LQRgTZJXXKctS0uzxiJFt0D BBAbyZfYQ7NphV3FrlToii8XUmjo7lYrmBlObVxcDYlPQQkaPdfg4gYvyllWUjg20MiO YIHvrwAXUoP+wG/qcc6mGsTAvvmQGCZztyC7I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kUZn2FfxMnK6LGKrapBLnXkhHjCr0s4OMdIzTjd2poXybMgAMQDDhcRG7+aB/5Gq45 lAwDEJodV5T6pxlK5g3mIvWv6AX7p7EFX/pIzhgMuIIK106o+/Y80dk1jJ4VzSjrqGuY W12GudgICtEj1qyL5qyw7hXd3CeudAOE1+2pQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.203 with SMTP id m11mr3718007bkd.79.1251678189092; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:23:09 -0400 Message-ID: <620c90570908301723p4476665bqd47e7be3858b3153@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [SLUG] Slow video NASA From: Chuck Hast To: slug@nks.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:68.87788/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net Folks, Been watching the video stream from the launch of STS-128 and now the approach to docking. One thing I have noticed, it takes for ever to get video, and it is not exactly on time, appearing (depending on what I am using to view it ) to be from 3 seconds to a couple of minutes delayed. I notice that the video shown in Firefox is the fastest, but when I open the page it takes several minutes to get a video and audio stream. If i use VLC it gets worse, anywhere from 3 to a tens of seconds behind Firefox. I used to be able to see these things almost as soon as I clicked on them, it seems it has gotten slower and slower. Is this just the nature of the thing or is it something I need to tweak?? My incoming data rate is 7.5MB at slowest rate. The data rate of the video stream is much slower than that. I am seeing the same thing on both Ubuntu 9.04 and SuSE 11.1 I no longer have a windows box so I can not compare to one of those things. -- Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- To paraphrase my flight instructor; "the only dumb question is the one you DID NOT ask resulting in my going out and having to identify your bits and pieces in the midst of torn and twisted metal." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Mon Aug 31 12:39:27 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7VGdRfS023479 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:39:27 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7VGdRr4023476 for slug-track29; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:39:27 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7VGdR1a023472 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:39:27 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx197.postini.com [74.125.149.233]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7VGdQMT031481 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:39:26 -0400 Received: from source ([206.46.173.15]) by na3sys009amx197.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:39:26 PDT Received: from news.home ([71.180.243.188]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KP9006PS29FDLX3@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for slug@nks.net; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:39:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:39:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Eben King X-X-Sender: eben@pc.home To: SLUG Mailing List Subject: [SLUG] LP/cassette -> file conversions Message-id: User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-GetARealMailreader: [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net I'm looking at something like http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170320197287 Are there any glitches with compatibility? Is that a decent price for a phono preamp (which is all I really need, since my sound card has a line in). That is, after I find or fix a phonograph and cassete deck. -- -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81 Q: What kind of modem did Jimi Hendrix use? A: A purple Hayes. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees. From owner-slug-track29 Mon Aug 31 12:51:50 2009 Received: from slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7VGpnTB025194 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:51:49 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by slug-list-00.ssn.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id n7VGpnfW025191 for slug-track29; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:51:49 -0400 Received: from nks-mail-02.nks.net (nks-mail-02.nks.net [24.73.114.101]) by slug-list-00.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with ESMTP id n7VGpnBx025187 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:51:49 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys009amx225.postini.com [74.125.149.65]) by nks-mail-02.nks.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9icb) with SMTP id n7VGpl14005590 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:51:48 -0400 Received: from source ([216.86.168.183]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009amx225.postini.com ([74.125.148.10]) with SMTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:51:48 PDT Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [72.184.57.173]) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BD95B509B3 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4A9BFFA1.6040304@roblimo.com> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:51:45 -0400 From: "Robin 'Roblimo' Miller" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: slug@nks.net Subject: Re: [SLUG] LP/cassette -> file conversions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020704070704050409020306" X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:27.51997/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:93.6803 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [97/4] Sender: slug@nks.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: slug@nks.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020704070704050409020306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eben King wrote: > I'm looking at something like > > http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170320197287 > > Are there any glitches with compatibility? This is a generic USB device, so it ought to work with any Linux sound setup that works with a USB headset. I haven't shopped for this kind of device, so I can't comment on the price. It comes with a free copy of Audacity, so chances are you can use Audacity with it, anyway. :) - Robin --------------020704070704050409020306 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="robin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="robin.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Robin Miller n:Miller;Robin org:Millers Art & Video adr:;;911 49th Avenue Drive West;Bradenton;FL;34207;USA email;internet:robin@roblimo.com title:Freelance writer, editor, and videographer tel;work:941-746-2602 tel;cell:941-565-2957 note:fast turnaround, reasonable rates. x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://roblimo.com version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020704070704050409020306-- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). 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