On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 07:13:58PM -0400, Smitty wrote:
> And you have only proven what I said. Thanks.
Ah, I see how it works. I quite explicitly make a case for something
and you dismiss it without any rationale. Riiiiiight.
> > If you want the answer, cite it with more precision.
>
> You are the one who asked for the data, Isaiah. If you care to pay me a
> consulting fee, I will spend a couple hours retrieving it from my files
> and write a report. You are the one who asked, not I. There have been
> folks who have already spent considerable time to convince these
> university yahoos about the merits of alt. medicine. They don't care to
> do anything about it. Only a grassroots movement has made any headway in
> getting alt. medicine is use.
But you're the one that gives a damn, despite your statements. ;)
> "Slow to change" is quite a euphemism! The AMA has spent a great deal of
> time and money trying to crush ALL alternative medical movements. That
> is very well documented. check out Harris Coulter's books, Griffin's
> World without Cancer to name a few. Using that as an excuse for the APA
> is just another false excuse.
One person's book qualifies for "very well documented"? How the world
has changed!
> The icepick treatment I described is essentially a pre-frontal lobotomy.
> Yes, it has been known to result in death. You seem to be saying that if
> they do it to themselves, it is bad, but if a "professional" psychiatrist
> does it, well, that's perfectly allright? If it is illegal for someone
> to inflict that injury on themselves, why is it not illegal for anyone
> else to inflict such a thing on another? Also, your last comment is a
> typical psychiatric tactic:: When psychs lose an argument, they tell you,
> in some fashion, that you are crazy. (kook, nuts, bonkers, etc.) Very
> basic invalidation. You have learned the psych arts quite well from
> your father.
Well, if they do it to themselves it's called attempted suicide. If
it's masked with a legal term, it's still bad, it's just legal. Like the
difference between "killing" and "murder". Not hard to understand.
It wouldn't surprise me if I did pick up a few things from dear old
Dad. But the fact remains, you know no moderation. That makes you a kook
in my book.
> My business, now. If you cannot have a rational discussion without
> resorting to psych tactics, you're not worth my time. So long.
Can't multithread? What a shame. Doesn't take much more brain power
than understanding the difference between a psychiatrist and a
psychologist, though, so I can see where you'd have some trouble. ;)
> Smitty
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- Isaiah
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