There is this one which JH did for CDC, and there was a
mention on one yet to issue stacked with 'anti-freedom' folk,
in Neal Knox's alert last week ...
-- Russ
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 11:23:06 -0700
From: 2nd. Amend. <d-walker@juno.com>
Reply-To: Ohio-RKBA@lpo.org
To: Ohio-RKBA@lpo.org
Subject: -IW- -IW- [OH RKBA] Doctors Group Says Gun Study 'Doesn't Add Up'
-- 08/30/2001
Dennis Walker
NATO Doctrine in Defense of the Second Amendment
www.peoplesrights.org
Peoples Rights Organization is Ohio's most active grassroots group
in the fields of Education, Legislation and Litigation.
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:35:57 -0500
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08/30/2001
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Doctors Group Says Gun Study 'Doesn't Add Up'
By Melanie Hunter
CNSNews.com Evening Editor
August 30, 2001
(CNSNews.com) - A coalition of doctors supporting gun ownership is
blasting a Johns Hopkins study that concludes that the licensing and
registration of firearms makes it harder for criminals and juveniles to
get guns.
Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership (DRGO), a nationwide network of
over 1,000 physicians and other health professionals who support the safe
and lawful use of firearms, a project of the Claremont Institute, says
the study doesn't add up.
"It just doesn't add up to good science," said Dr. Tim Wheeler, director
of DRGO and a southern California surgeon. "For example, there was a 1997
Department of Justice survey of prison inmates that found that only 15
percent of their crime guns were obtained through legal retail outlets.
"So, I would wonder how could you keep criminals from getting guns by, as
Johns Hopkins suggests doing, licensing and registering only 15 percent
of the market. The answer is you can't," Wheeler said.
The study was conducted by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Center for
Gun Policy and Research, which describes itself as "dedicated to
preventing gun-related deaths and injuries."
As part of the study, which appears in the September issue of the journal
Injury Prevention, researchers analyzed data on guns linked to crimes in
25 U.S. cities.
It specifically looked at how many of those "crime guns" were sold by
in-state gun dealers. In states that required both licensing and
registration for handgun purchases, fewer guns used in crimes had come
from in-state dealers, the researchers said.
"A very low proportion of crime guns sold in-state indicates that
criminals and juveniles are finding it difficult to obtain guns from
local sources," said Daniel Webster, the study's lead author.
The study said seven states (Hawaii, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts,
Connecticut, Michigan, Missouri) require licensing (applying for a permit
to purchase a gun) as well as registration (database of all handgun
owners).
"Our findings suggest that many states that have either registration or
licensing but not both (for example, California and Maryland) may benefit
by adopting more comprehensive handgun sales laws," said Webster.
Wheeler disagrees with that theory on scientific and constitutional
grounds.
"First of all, the science," he said. "Many studies have been done
including more than one Department of Justice survey or study that shows
that ... criminals can get firearms if they wanted, no matter what, and
that normal market channels don't apply to criminals."
He said 85 percent of firearms used by criminals don't come from retail
stores; they come from friends and family, as well as the black market
and through drug deals or trades.
On constitutional grounds, Wheeler believes licensing and registration of
gun ownership could lead to violation of the Second Amendment.
"A lot of people think that it can't happen in America, but registration
and licensing of legally owned guns has lead to confiscation of lawfully
owned guns in England, Australia, New York and even right here in
California right now," he said.
"So I think we all agree that violent criminals should never be allowed
to own a gun, but decent law-abiding citizens should not have to get
fingerprinted and get permission from the government to own a gun,"
Wheeler said. "It's your right under the Constitution."
He encourages the enforcement of already existing gun laws.
"First of all, there is no evil or mischievous thing that could be done
with a gun that is not already against the law," Wheeler said. "And any
further gun laws can only work against law-abiding gun owners and not
criminals. The way you enforce the law against criminals is to apprehend
and imprison criminals. And you leave the good people alone.
"It's that simple," he said.
Morning Editor Susan Jones contributed to this article.
See Earlier Stories:
Study Supports Gun Licensing and Registration (Aug. 30, 2001)
Gun Owners Group Lashes Out at 'Self Righteous Doctors' (Aug. 21, 2001)
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