Re: [SLUG] FreeBSD vs. Linux

From: Doc - KD4E (e.net@verizon.net)
Date: Thu Nov 22 2001 - 21:08:09 EST


Got a tiny firewall that will run on a 486 dx/2 50 laptop with
8megs of RAM? (also has 360m hdd, currently loaded with
Win95 ... don't ask, it goes when the laptop is converted to
a firewall)

Doc

> I have run OpenBSD for two years now, primarily for the best firewall I
can
> find. If you know of who these people are who are forming a BSD usrs
group I
> would be very interested in knowing where to join.
>
> If you get a chance to check out the man pages on openBSD I think you will
be
> suprised at the quality of the documentation. Imagine, a man page that
you can
> understand and that has examples.
>
> Rusty
>
> Greg Schmidt wrote:
>
> > I think he has a point. The most important thing to take away from his
> > comments probably come at the end of that page where he says to look at
BOTH.
> > Both Linux and BSD are good. I'm running both.
> >
> > As background, the OSes currently powered up and runing on my home hobby
LAN
> > are:
> >
> > Win95
> > Win98
> > WinME
> > Win2K Server
> > Linux (Mandrake 8.1) - two of these. One was Caldera until a week or so
ago.
> > Linux (Slackware)
> > FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE
> >
> > I spend most of my time on this Mandrake box. The Slackware box and one
of
> > the Mandrake boxes are currently headless for a lack of cables for my
KVM
> > switch. (It's actually just a KV, very old, mice litter my desk, but
Xmas is
> > coming.) One of the projects I'm considering is to build a NetBSD box
and
> > run iptables to make a third firewall. (I get three IP addys from
> > RoadRunner.)
> >
> > Though I like BSD and I intend to look into it more, as well as learning
more
> > about Linux, there are some things to keep in mind. People coming from
> > Windows to Linux are usually facing a steep learning curve. Recent
> > distributions just keep getting easier, so this is less of an issue than
it
> > used to be, but it's still there. To me, it seems BSD has a steeper
learning
> > curve than Linux. Also, Linux seems to be better "supported" than BSD.
It's
> > not that BSD is not well-documented, it is, but there are more and more
> > varied places to get help with and learn about Linux. If there was a
BSD
> > users group in this area I would go to their meetings and read their
local
> > mailing list the same as I do for our beloved SLUG, but I haven't found
one.
> > One is supposed to be forming, but it's not here yet. The BSD
documentation
> > project does not have the breadth of information that the Linux
documentation
> > project does. It has a lot of stuff, and it is good stuff, but you can
get
> > help from more different places with Linux.
> >
> > Also, in his comparison below he's comparing 4.1-STABLE to the 2.2.16
kernel.
> > I wonder if it is much different in the 2.4.x kernels.
> >
> > On Thursday 22 November 2001 12:06 pm, you wrote:
> > > Can anyone comment on this or verify or dispute this? (from:
> > > http://movingparts.thelinuxcommunity.org/systems.shtml )
> > >
> > > <snipped from page>
> > > First, FreeBSD does a MUCH better job of handling memory-management
than
> > > does Linux. What does this mean? I've been running FreeBSD with
> > > apache/X/php4/netscape/etc. on my work machine for a month now and I
still
> > > have half of my RAM
> > > free--and my swap partition is only 3% full. Now, on almost
> > > exactly the same machine, I have had the same services running on
> > > a Linux machine, and my RAM is 75% used up--but I also show having 50%
of
> > > my swap partition used up.
> > >
> > > Second, FreeBSD seems to do a much better job of hard drive
> > > I/O handling. There is a noticeable difference between my laptop and
my
> > > friend's laptop (IDENTICAL laptops, mind you) with me running FreeBSD
> > > 4.1-STABLE and him running Linux 2.2.16, when it comes to
reading/writing
> > > large files, or large amounts of small files. </snipped from page>
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > > ________________
> > >
> > > Justin Keyes
> > > m9u35@yahoo.com
> > > ________________
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