Re: [SLUG] Verizon/GTE DSL

From: steve (steve@itcom.net)
Date: Sun May 12 2002 - 20:57:57 EDT


Don't know where you are, but I'm paying about $80 for dedicated IP's
(business) with throughput as high as 9MB. At home I have 2MB solid, for
$39.95. Both from TW.

On Sunday 12 May 2002 20:49, you wrote:
> Sorry to burst the bubble there Time Warner Cable only gives regular
> resident service between 468 to 512 k down average and 256k up.
> 2 megs is Bussiness Class now. So it is not that big of a deal any more.
> Yeah sure if you live out in the woods and are the only one with
> cable it is ok but once you get 2 to 3 people in your neighbor hood it is
> nothing better then DSL speeds or less.
>
> TW Road Runner Bussiness class for $410.00 a month will only get you 4mb
> down and 1.5 mb up.
> Rapid System DSL 7 mb down 2.5 up $149.00.
>
> 2mb down and 1mb up was around $69.00 month versus the 512k down and Road
> Runner actually only promisses 200k of that and 256k up for $49.00. I
> would say if you can get DSL and Cable check the rates! Where I am at Road
> Runner $uks.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: steve <steve@itcom.net>
> To: slug@nks.net <slug@nks.net>
> Date: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Verizon/GTE DSL
>
> >I've used both in differnet settings in different parts of the country.
> >
> >When all things are equal you get MUCH more bang for your buck using
> > cable.
> >
> >If cable is oversold, as it has been in the past, it CAN deteriorate below
> >that of DSL. Actually a number of years ago I saw useless cable speeds,
> > but I've seen that with DSL too, early on.
> >
> >If your copper is too old or too far away it's not workable.
> >
> >The cable guys know this is the time to steal all the DSL customers they
>
> can
>
> >get. So they don't oversell it as they used to. And, they have finally
> >learned how to manage IP access over cable.
>
> Yes they do over sell that is why they cap modem speeds!
>
> >You pay roughly the same, but you tend to get at least a cool 2MB down
> > pipe on cable. Whereas you only get 384 or 768 on DSL for the same
> > dollars.
>
> (About
>
> >$40.)
>
> Wrong you will not get 2mb down you may once in a very unusal circumstance
> get that!
> You have to consider how many neighbors and then how many with multiple
> pc's.
>
> >DSL is more stable, but when they go down they can be down for a week, or
> >more, as their actual repair time can take a couple of weeks. (I've seen
>
> it.)
>
> >Cable will go down more often than DSL as they work on and modify it. But
> >it's always up in a matter of an hour or a couple.
> >
> >DSL cannot overcome the distance problem the way your cable guys do it.
> > I'm not sure why (costs/income no doubt) but the cable guys will throw in
> > repeaters when the phone companies won't. On the cable they can have many
> > customers use that repeater, whereas on DSL there's only one on that
> > pair. Cable infrastructure is more costly to build (material cost) than
> > DSL which it's already there.
> >
> >So I almost never recommend DSL over cable. Actually I turn companies onto
> >cable as they tend to prefer more but shorter outtages than fewer longer
>
> ones.
>
> >This is what I have observed.
> >
> >On Sunday 12 May 2002 16:38, you wrote:
> >> Steve,
> >>
> >> I am on cable and considering DSL. It appears that you have had both,
>
> what
>
> >> do you recommend?
> >
> >--
> >
> >Steve
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