> I have very mixed feelings about this. I think if people want to have
> their own web-diary thing (I hate the terms "weblog" and even more,
> "blog". Don't use them around me in person unless you feel like being
> punched...) they should go set up their own or find someone to host it.
> I don't particularly like the idea of trying to tie something like that
> to the SLUG list. I like mailing lists, I dislike web-based discussion
> methods, and I would be concerned that discussion would move off the
> list, or that a large amount of the discussion would turn into "I have a
> question. check my latest entry at... http://blahblahblah/ " as the
> entirety of the message.
OK....I thought blogs and web-based discussions were quite different.. I am
not much on it..
but you are the first person that I have heard the is aggressively against
slashdot and the like.
> * A web browser "textfield" is an extremely sucky editor. Everyone has
> their favorite email clients, but there is (except for extremely rare
> exceptions) only one interface to the web forum and you MUST use the one
> given to you whether you like it or not. (and personally, I've NEVER
> seen a web forum interface that I didn't at least marginally dislike;
> most are really despicably horrible.)
you could just use your favorite text editor and paste.
> * Invariably the forum messages are going to be stored in some
> proprietary format with proprietary access methods (i.e. stuffed into a
> database that can only be gotten to through the forum) and in a central
> location with no hope of having your own local copy to browse offline or
> search with your favorite email client or even tools like "grep". (And
> with one central repository, if there is ever a drive crash and no
> backups, that's all gone forever.)
you have already used your favorite text editor, you can save it and use
"grep"
> * A web forum REQUIRES that you perform an action to participate - you
> MUST visit the website to read anything; it doesn't just magically show
> up in your INBOX as with a mailing list, where you can then choose to
> ignore/file/delete or reply/participate as you might feel at that
> particular moment. If you don't click on it regularly, you are no
> longer able to even passively participate.
you can use a website update utility...to check for new content...they do a
pretty good job.
> * Web forums are subject to the whims of the Internet - if your route to
> the server at that particular moment is down, you can't do anything, and
> you have to either sit there clicking "Reload" waiting for it to come
> back or give up and hopefully remember to come back later. Email will
> queue up until the connection comes back - you might not get it
> immediately, but you WILL get it eventually through no extra effort on
> the part of the recipient.
so is email.
> Forgive the semi-rant, but I simply don't understand the fascination so
> many people have today with using web forums instead of a simple mailing
> list."
forgiven
and for the record, I don't even use blogs...I never have enough to say...I
have posted a few comments on slashdot but thats about it...
Like I said, if people in the group who are not violently against this I
would be willing to host it. I think it would be a great place for slug
members to post the progress on projects or the like that they are
working...information that is usefull but not materail that you would normal
send on this list ( as the guy who orginally post the webblog idea said).
> --
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> $_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$b=73;$c=142;$t=255;@t=map
> {$_%16or$t^=$c^=($m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])&110;
> $t^=(72,@z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16-2?0:$m&17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0,@z)
> [$_%8]}(16..271);if((@a=unx"C*",$_)[20]&48){$h=5;$_=unxb24,join
> "",@b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])}@ARGV;s/...$/1$&/;$d=
> unxV,xb25,$_;$e=256|(ord$b[4])<<9|ord$b[3];$d=$d>>8^($f=$t&($d
> >>12^$d>>4^$d^$d/8))<<17,$e=$e>>8^($t&($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q*
> 8^$q<<6))<<9,$_=$t[$_]^(($h>>=8)+=$f+(~$g&$t))for@a[128..$#a]}
> print+x"C*",@a}';s/x/pack+/g;eval
>
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> | extract_mpeg2 | mpeg2dec -
>
> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/
> http://www.eff.org/ http://www.anti-dmca.org/
>
>
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