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>On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 14:08, Aaron Steimle wrote:
>> Was this something that people would be interested in. If so, I was going to
>> get some space at phpwebhosting. I would have no trouble putting something
>> like that up. I might need help actually setting it up. I wouldn't mind
>> doing it as long as people would use it.
>
>I have very mixed feelings about this. I think if people want to have
>their own web-diary thing (I hate the terms "weblog" and even more,
>"blog". Don't use them around me in person unless you feel like being
>punched...)
BLOG... BLOG BLOG BLOG!
There, I said it :^P
>they should go set up their own or find someone to host it.
>I don't particularly like the idea of trying to tie something like that
>to the SLUG list. I like mailing lists, I dislike web-based discussion
>methods, and I would be concerned that discussion would move off the
>list, or that a large amount of the discussion would turn into "I have a
>question. check my latest entry at... http://blahblahblah/ " as the
>entirety of the message.
Yes, this royally *isses me off. "Hey, check out my webpage, and be
sure to click on my sponsor so that I can do more of my
lame-life-online."
>I'm going to quote (yet another :) of my own rants about web-based
>message systems I posted once to a different list (not quite as appropos
>to this specific topic but virtually):
>
>"I think web forums are one of the most horrible side effects of the
>Internet explosion for a few reasons:
>
>* A web browser "textfield" is an extremely sucky editor. Everyone has
>their favorite email clients, but there is (except for extremely rare
>exceptions) only one interface to the web forum and you MUST use the one
>given to you whether you like it or not. (and personally, I've NEVER
>seen a web forum interface that I didn't at least marginally dislike;
>most are really despicably horrible.)
Don't forget, for the simple matter of information, HTML is piggy.
Text is information and ONLY information--quick and dirty. I cringe
just going to sourceforge.net or slashdot, and I don't think they are
the worst by far.
>
>* Invariably the forum messages are going to be stored in some
>proprietary format with proprietary access methods (i.e. stuffed into a
>database that can only be gotten to through the forum) and in a central
>location with no hope of having your own local copy to browse offline or
>search with your favorite email client or even tools like "grep". (And
>with one central repository, if there is ever a drive crash and no
>backups, that's all gone forever.)
I didn't think about this. That's true considering in email the
populous may have it distributively archived.
>
>* A web forum REQUIRES that you perform an action to participate - you
>MUST visit the website to read anything; it doesn't just magically show
>up in your INBOX as with a mailing list, where you can then choose to
>ignore/file/delete or reply/participate as you might feel at that
>particular moment. If you don't click on it regularly, you are no
>longer able to even passively participate.
>
>* Web forums are subject to the whims of the Internet - if your route to
>the server at that particular moment is down, you can't do anything, and
>you have to either sit there clicking "Reload" waiting for it to come
>back or give up and hopefully remember to come back later. Email will
>queue up until the connection comes back - you might not get it
>immediately, but you WILL get it eventually through no extra effort on
>the part of the recipient.
>
>Forgive the semi-rant, but I simply don't understand the fascination so
>many people have today with using web forums instead of a simple mailing
>list."
Don't forget about newgroups. News clients can do the same thing,
and they don't fill up your inbox/mailboxes.
/mario
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