On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 03:22:04PM -0500, Smitty wrote:
> On Sunday 05 January 2003 00:43, you wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 11:08:08PM -0500, Smitty wrote:
> > > > Be forewarned: opening up an opensource list to commercial involvement
> > > > is a slippery slope. Constant barrages of advertisements and
> > > > solicitations, trolling headhunters, and garage sale type ebay folks
> > > > will tend to irritate anyone attempting to ask technical questions or
> > > > have open conversation. This is really why the SLUG list has policies
> > > > against these things: there are no sinister plots behind it.
> > >
> > > I think you are speculating, Ian. I am not aware of anyone espousing
> > > conspiracy theories about SLUG list policies. We are educated adults and
> > > I think we can handle all the negative things you mentioned, if and when
> > > they occur.
> >
> > Speculating? Perhaps. Having subscribed to hundreds of mailing lists for
> > over a decade, experience has found this to be the case. A well policed
> > list will generally avoid these problems, I will agree.
>
> You speculating indeed, Ian. Neither Dave nor I have any such belief.
> Just the fact that you accuse us of such a thing could mean you are inclined
> to believe such a it. "hundreds of mailing lists" ? Policing can and often
> is overdone.
I'm not accusing anyone of anything. Perhaps you've misunderstood what
I've said.
> > > > Yahoo Groups can be a pain though. If the registration process weren't
> > > > irritating enough, those little trailer advertisements on every email
> > > > get on my nerves. The spam is also rather obnoxious.
> > >
> > > Now, those statements are downright untrue. I found the registration
> > > process to be a breeze - easier than Majordomo! There are No trailer
> > > advertisements on every email as you asserted and No spam whatsoever. I
> > > have been subscribed to another yahoogroups list for two years and Never
> > > got any spam from that list at all. Gosh, Ian, if I didn't know you
> > > better, I would think you are trying to F.U.D. a bit about FLALUG.
> >
> > Untrue? The last time I subscribed to a YahooGroups list, every message
> > did include a small advertisement at the bottom of every email. Again,
> > personal experience. If Yahoo has changed their policy since then, I'm
> > glad to hear it.
>
> Sorry to hear that a few lines of text at the bottom of an email message
> annoys you. It has never bothered me.
It does irritate me. This is a personal qualm. More irritating is the
need to register to read mail archives.
> > As far as Spam is concerned: your list is "Restricted Membership. This
> > means you must approve every new member, which will cut down on the
> > potential Spammers. Open lists tend to have these problems.
>
> Yes, that is essentially the idea behind it.
Great.
> > F.U.D? No. Personal experience. Perhaps I should reserve judgement until
> > I'm approved to be part of the list.
>
> You originally stated, "I wish FLALUG the best." Now you want to sit in
> judgement of us? Now I am sceptical of what you really mean.
Again, I believe you've totally misundersood/misinterpreted what I've said.
I was referring to the irritation that is YahooGroups. Everyone is their
own judge of content. I sit in judgement of SLUG for myself as well.
> > > > It would still be fun to join if for no other reason than to pick up
> > > > cheap hardware ;)
> > >
> > > And, Ian, you can advertise the services of your ISP on the list without
> > > threats by a list admin.
> >
> > As I work for the company that hosts the current SLUG list, it is
> > professional courtesy and a wish to honestly help the community that
> > stop us from doing so.
>
> And that is your choice. We still offer you the opportunity.
It is indeed my choice.
As always, Smitty, it's been great talking with you.
- Ian
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