---- "This is just my opinion and I could be wrong..." ---
Yeh I guess maybe you could be because there are those of us who did not
start in 94, haven't done any post grad work in programming, etc. We use
Linux because we like it and not necessarily because we know "all" about it
and its nuances. So just try and have a little patience and understanding,
maybe you can come over to my place and tell me why it is so hard to build a
custom street rod(metal) and let me tell and show you its so easy!!. I've
been doing that since "73" : ) See we each have different levels of
expertise and some of us have found some thing in Linux difficult or at the
least very different from windows.
I made my original statement to the others, who like me , might find some
things more difficult, and to say that with the help of the forum, things
didn't seem difficult at all. Im sure there are those who will find
Libranet,even with the help of the forum, difficult. I have been using Linux
for awhile now but I haven't found it my goal in life to become an expert,
just a user, so there is a ton of stuff that I don't know and don't really
care to learn. I just want to use it for what I want to do and maybe play a
little along the way.
The original post was my opinion and observations and yes debian was a
difficult install for me originally ( bout 3-4 years ago) and Im sure that
others find it daunting. I was just offering a solution that worked for me.
Anyway there is nothing personal or anything like that involved and don't want
to start a war or a long string, I just wanted to explain that there are
users, and new to Linux people that will find any distro difficult, so rather
than pop in with this is so simple, or read the manual/faq, etc. help is
whats necessary for linux to succeed and expand the user base. Plain and
simple english and step by step help, hand holding if you will. The forum
offered that and I did learn a few things, but only because there was no
attitude and alot of help.
Thats just my opinion and I could be wrong.
A J
On Thursday 09 January 2003 08:43 pm, you wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 10:18, bpreece1@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
> > Right now another great Dedbian based Distro is Xandros.
>
> Egads! What the devil is so difficult about installing Debian?!?!
> With the exception of my European boxen, which run SuSE at their behest,
> all of my American boxen run Debian.
> Xandros sounds cool if you run M$ regalia, but I haven't used
> anything M$ since DOS 5.0 when I switched from a Commodore 64 to a shiny
> new IBM i386 20MHz and DOS 5.0 and it complained (in 1991, with a
> staggering 4MB of RAM and 20MB HHD) of an "out of memory error" running
> SimCity, which worked perfectly on my C64 (with a mighty 64k,) but would
> not on my IBM and thus, I had to learn about DOS HIMEM nonsense. I dilly
> dallied with other operating systems for sometime and was ready to
> install Minix on my 386, at a vilely higher price than Windoze is now,
> when in 1994 I discovered Linux. Compared to the early versions of
> Linux, using a RAM disk 5 1/4 floppy, a boot disk 5 1/4 floppy and 50
> minute to over an hour kernel compile times to make my drivers, Debian
> is an utter blessing. Its stability is non-parallel. In my opinion, if
> you want to use Linux and just Linux, Debian is the way to go and there
> is nothing difficult about the commands, "apt-get update," and "apt-get
> -u upgrade."
> Anyway, all of the users in the orthodontic offices (over 100)
> across the US and Europe which have my Linux servers, along with a
> multitude of dumb terminals, to include Loma Linda University of
> California, have commented they enjoy the ability to log in at any
> terminal and have the same desktop, no matter where they log in. They
> also enjoy system maintenance from afar with SSH, which is much cheaper
> than having a technician come to their office.
> Debian is easy to install. If you have installed something like Red
> Hat, SuSE or Mandrake or any other automagically installed distro, run
> the command "lsmod" as root, write down the list of modules produced and
> you can install Debian just the same, with less money out of your
> pocket. Then possibly make a small donation to the Free Software
> Foundation with the money you would have spent buying a distro.
> My God! Was that a rant? Forgive me. I did not mean to sound
> like Dennis Miller, especially since my rant was no where near as
> humorous and lacking similes... But in his words:
> This is just my opinion and I could be wrong...
>
> The Logan
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