They also cause undue inflation of prices by demanding top pay for nominal
positions.
I had a friend who worked for an auto maker in Michigan. He was paid
something like $50 an hour to place a nut on a bolt. He didn't have to use a
wrench. He didn't even have to hand tighten the nut. Just place it on the
bolt enought to not come off so the robot next to him could tighten it.
And for this he received $50 and hour!
Why is it again that a car that cost only a few thousand in parts to make
costs $25,000 to buy?
IMHO unions had their time and place... and that time is passed.
Bradley
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slug@lists.nks.net [mailto:slug@lists.nks.net]On Behalf Of Paddy
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:00 PM
> To: slug@nks.net
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Java programming internships
>
>
> If you like unions so much you need to examine the National Education
> Association (NEA) and see what a wonderful job they are doing to make sure
> all of the youth of America are illiterate.
>
> Unions defend, with their last dollar and breath, the most ill suited
> members of their union at the expense of all other members.
>
> Unions = Mediocrity.
>
> Paddy
>
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
> On 6/12/2003 at 12:15 PM Robin 'Roblimo' Miller wrote:
>
> >>
> >>
> >>Now if you want to be productive and play nice and work together on
> >>getting some sort of union / organization going I'm right there in the
> >>trench with you but I'm not just going to lie on my back and be treated
> >>like dirt because people like you feel that I'm moving in on their turf.
> >>
> >
> >Once upon a time, crafts unions -- the direct descendants of the
> >medieval guilds that liberated their towns and cities from the
> >serf-owning nobility -- considered it their responsibility to sponsor
> >apprentices, and employers also considered it their responsibility to
> >train the next generation of carpenters, machinists, bricklayers, and so
> >on.
> >
> >Now, in today's America, we pretend selfishness and short-sightedness
> >are virtues, and we don't believe in apprenticeships or anything else
> >that might benefit our communities and our country in the long run.
> >Employees are disposable machines, not humans worthy of loyalty and
> >long-term nurturing.
> >
> >We are moving toward a Hobbesian economy, with "Each man at war with all
> >others."
> >
> >An absolute free market is fine for economists and billionaires, but it
> >purely sucks for everyone else.
> >
> >We should be welcoming interns and nurturing them, not worrying that The
> >Bosses will can long-term, skilled workers and replace them with interns
> >to save in the short term. But this is "market efficiency," and Florida
> >is a "Right to Work (for next to nothing until you drop and get replaced
> >by someone even easier to exploit) State," so many are hostile to
> >young workers, seeing them as nothing but competition.
> >
> >Still, there are a few rays of hope in the gloom:
> >http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/06/11/2022224&tid=23
> >
> >I personally refuse to go along with the current meanness. I am not a
> >Christian, but I believe in many Christian values, and I will continue
> >to practice them -- and encourage others to practice them -- despite the
> >efforts of our current political 'leaders' to denigrate helpfulness in
> >any form, and generally treat the working people of the U.S. like smelly
> >garbage.
> >
> >- Robin
>
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