Re: [SLUG] Fw: [SCAD] Hacker took over control of a Russian gas SCAD system?

From: Frank Roberts - SOTL (sotl155360@earthlink.net)
Date: Thu May 06 2004 - 08:19:09 EDT


Boy did you hit the nail on the head with NO security.

Easy ?
Maybe in the computer side but try playing with a Schweitzer relay for a while
and then tell me they are easy.
http://www.selinc.com/

Frank

PS: You could get several PhD trying to understand a Schweitzer relay.

On Wednesday 05 May 2004 19:58, Ken Elliott wrote:
> SCADA systems are easy. No security of any kind. The controls will simply
> accept any command issued by anyone. Did you know our electric grid is
> SCADA-based?
>
> Worse, the US helped install the same stuff in Afganistan, so anyone who
> knows that system has a pretty good understanding of ours...
>
> Ken Elliott
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> SCAD system?
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> On Wednesday 05 May 2004 01:55 pm, you wrote:
> > On Sunday 02 May 2004 09:56, John Saunders wrote:
> > > http://gtiservices.org/security/riskassess/gazprom_attack_04261999.d
> > > oc This report no longer seems to be online, but you might contact
> > > Bill Rush at GTI/AGA to get a copy.
>
> This sounds an awful lot like the purported CIA exploit of the Soviet
> natural gas lines of a few years ago. Separate incidents or an urban myth
> in the making?
>
> Bill
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