Re: {SPAM?} Re: [SLUG] just received genuine spam on this list

From: Steve (steve@szmidt.org)
Date: Mon May 17 2004 - 02:02:15 EDT


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On Sunday 16 May 2004 07:16 pm, Robin 'Roblimo' Miller wrote:
> >This is a case where what _looks_ real isn't. Most of the addresses here
> >are spoofed. Although the "To:" header says one thing, the envelope
> >header is something else, which is why it got to you, but not to the
> >list in general.
>
> I get complaints all the time about spam "from" NewsForge, Slashdot,
> SourceForge, freshmeat, and other OSDN sites that, if you look at the
> headers, really came through open relays in places like Nigeria, Korea,
> China or one of the former Soviet Republics. It's a form of identity
> theft in which law enforcement has no interest and doesn't have the
> ability to stop even if they cared. I send a canned reply to
> complainants telling them to send the email, including full headers
> and/or source to their ISP or network admin and move on, and we block
> IPs that send this crap to our network.
>
> I feel sorry for the people getting the spam, but it hurts us
> (reputation) more than it hurts them, and I'm just as powerless to stop
> it as they are.
>
> - Robin

I know what you mean. I've seen managers who are clueless about how it works
receive complaints from customers, claiming that they were getting viruses
and spam from them. Then come and complain on the poor admin and try to say
he'd better fix it, thinking it's true.

Then many domains end up on a blacklist and cannot mail to you because the
ISP is now blocking mail from them. Again the admin get's the blame for
having a faulty mail server.

(I've not looked too hard but it's easy to I'd imagine that someone have a
workable solution to authenticate sender. One ISP implements that and when
a communication is verifiable it would say so. As it catches on it get's
more and more users until everyone used it.

Sound pretty nice! So where is it?

Oh, one is called GnuPG, another is PGP. Hmm, and it does not get used
because...? Unless you use KDE it's still too hard for everyone to use, and
KDE is not that prevalent, yet... <sigh>.)

- --
Steve

"They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve
neither liberty nor safety."
                                Benjamin Franklin

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