Re: [SLUG] OT: M$ deals the final blow

From: Robert Snyder (robertsnyder@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Sep 09 2004 - 15:09:55 EDT


On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 12:11:54 -0400, Steve Szmidt <steve@szmidt.org> wrote:
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> On Thursday 09 September 2004 07:25 am, Knowles Burrell wrote:
> > >>No corporation with experienced admins allow autoupdate.
> > >
> > >I thought that was one of the big deals about Gentoo and Debian.
> >
> > Are you saying they auto update without having any user interaction? I
> > have used both distro's and currently I am using Gentoo. Neither of
>
> Haha. No, the thread was about ms updates.
>
> I decided to make fun of the all evil ms view, as it's exaggerated. They act
> in a manner which one could easily call evil, but is simply an egotistical
> and highly irresponsible way, for a market leader to be operating.
>
> When I typed "evil overlords" I had a big smile on my face. The point of that
> being that in email, you cannot readily tell what is the emotion of the
> person who wrote it is. And in the very next sentence I backed down from the
> evil description. Written communication can often be read in more than one
> way, and to top it off, people often misread things.
>
> Kind of like that silly ink blob test. Where you're asked to say what you see.
> (And they don't mean ink either. Haha. : )
>
> Back in the early windows vs Mac war there were some very heated discussions
> on the the subject. To me, it was amazing how emotional people could get
> about something like an operating system. It's just a dumb tool with zero
> intelligence.
>
> Of course a tool can be crappy and not at all perform as advertized and That
> can become rather annoying, to say the least. So one can get upset with the
> manufacturer. Especially when they are a court acknowledged monopoly.
>
> The fact that they make more money than many countries, and still have a
> crappy product with EULA's and policies that is only good for them... Well
> let's just say that you don't exactly feel like supporting them in all the
> selfish, nah - destructive ways of operating, which they pursue.
>
> As far as Robert having the right to say what he wants. Well of course he
> does! My comment was initiated by him saying "shut up" to Chris. It seemed
> kinda out of place to be appearing such a staunch defender of windows and
> their ways. Which a number of his emails looks like. I don't care if he is,
> but being a SLUG list, anti ms posts are to be expected and not reasonably
> silenced either.
>
> - --
> Steve
>
> "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve
> neither liberty nor safety."
> Benjamin Franklin
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I said it before and I will say it again steve.

Does windows have way too many issues - yes
Is windows full of security holes and haven for zombie spam machines yes

But should I let people spread bs and that what it is BS about it no

MS had to give you a way of turning it off and it can be down with a
matter of 5 whole clicks. and it so hard having to expect some one to
go to the control panel and turn off automatic updates.

Now if this was osx i would say the say thing. I will not sit around
and let people go off and spread just utter bullshit....

Damn right i told him to shut up just like i would of told him shut up
if i was in the same room as he was.
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