[SLUG] Re: Good price on Linksys Wireless-G Broadband Router - WRT54G

From: Bryan J. Smith (b.j.smith@ieee.org)
Date: Wed Nov 03 2004 - 13:51:48 EST


On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 10:39, Donald E Haselwood wrote:
> Including taxes and shipping, Amazon.com has the best deal that I have found.
> BTW, the rebates are only good for two units.

WARNING: OT/Flammable Response (probably not warranted)

Why do I cringe everytime someone calls these SOHO 1-to-many NAT devices
"routers"?

I just ran into a major issue with this at a new client a few weeks
ago. Trying to describe to them what a _real_ "router" is took me a
long time. I couldn't get through to them.

At lunch, I finally just put my Linux notebook in place of 2 NAT devices
(using 2 CardBus 10/100 adapters plus my on-board 10/100) and took
over. They were pissed I did this but in a matter of 15 minutes I had
their 2 remote locations talking.

Then I went and showed them the routing tables on all their NT boxen.
Lo' and behold, every workstation could now see their _whole_ network!
Better yet, their network performance issues ended because they weren't
sending around bad and unnecessary ARP packets.

And lastly, there are NAT devices that are also _real_ "routers" for
under $200 at CompUSA. It's not fair to call cheaper, 1-to-many NAT
device "routers" when they lack so much "router" capability.

Just my $0.02. I guess I'm starting to get on a "pet peeve" with this
on several lists. But I keep running into people using multiple
1-to-many NAT devices between offices and wondering why they have
issues. So I feel the need to be "anal" and start a campaign to further
understanding.

But this isn't some "hacker" v. "developer" terminology analness. A
SOHO 1-to-many NAT device is not a router. It doesn't even begin to
fulfill the role, and there are many issues with them doing more than
what they were designed for.

-- Bryan

P.S. Now if you load a new Linux firmware in the WRT54G and give it
router capabilities, then that's different, I agree.

-- 
Bryan J. Smith                                  b.j.smith@ieee.org 
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