Thanks for the feedback.
Yes the grammer is bad. So was the spelling but the spell checker caught most
of that. Both happen when I am extremely pissed - Sorry.
Thanks
Frank
On Tuesday 30 November 2004 10:53, Justin Prior wrote:
> The grammar is a little off, but overall well said. Personally I am not a
> Mandrake fan but have heard similar complaints.
>
> Justin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> > Hi All
> >
> > The following is a memo I just sent to the Mandrake sale representative
> > that
> > handled my last Mandrake order.
> >
> > I am posting this so that the group knows of my level of displeasure with
> > the
> > Mandrake 10.1 distribution.
> >
> > Also, hopefull Robolomo will pick up on this an supply some input.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > __________
> > First, order was received - Thanks
> >
> > Unfortunately I am having to send this to you as I do not know how to
> > contract
> > upper level management myself.
> > Thus, please take this e-mail to upper level management immediately.
> >
> > I assume that Mandrake is selling goods and services because Mandrake is
> > attempting to make a profit by supplying semi technical people an
> > operating
> > system that is cutting edge. Computer techs on one hand have the ability
> > to
> > down load assemble, compile add modify and generate such an operating
> > system. There are those of us on the other hand who for one reason or the
> > other are NOT fully technical qualified to do this assembly but who do
> > have
> > the qualification to install a distribution such as Mandrake from a disk.
> > I
> > am one such and I have installed Red Hat and then later Mandrake over 100
> > times from disk but I can not install Mandrake 10.1. The reason for this
> > is
> > that Mandrake in it good graces has decided that us less than fully
> > technical
> > qualified people do NOT need a version that is installable.
> >
> > Placing the new 10.1 disk in my old IBM Thinkpad A30P I promply got a
> > message
> > that says to install the "Additional Drivers Disk" in the floppy drive.
> > Now
> > 8.2, 9.0, 9.1 and 9.2 installed just fine but now suddenly 10.1 will not
> > because some idiot decided that the drivers required for installation are
> > NOT
> > necessary for NON tackies. Tackies of course know where to obtain these
> > drivers and how to manipulate Linux and Mandrake such that this is not a
> > issue. BUT! To us non tackies what that translates into is that I have
> > wasted
> > the purchase price of Mandrake 10.1 on a system that I can NOT install
> > and have latterly NO idea of how to acquire the files necessary to
> > install it.
> >
> > At this point if one is astute one should ask why a NON teckie would want
> > to
> > upgrade from 9.2 to 10.1 in the first place. Well the issues with 9.1 and
> > 9.1
> > to an NON teckie were not issue with the various programs but mostly with
> > the
> > interaction of the programs in particular cut and past. Now cut and past
> > in
> > Open Office, KDE, and a number of other programs works just find AS LONG
> > AS
> > ONE DOES NOT LEAVE THAT PROGRAM but copping words off a web site in to
> > Open
> > Office some tines yes and some times no depending on if Open Office or
> > Konqueror was opened first. There were a number of issues like the cut
> > and past example that make it worth of an upgrade but the biggest issue
> > is a major major issue.
> >
> > This computer is a laptop not a desk top, not a server or router or fire
> > wall.
> > Infact as a desktop user I am appalled that server, router, and firewall
> > programs are included with desktop programs while depriving one of
> > additional
> > user programs. I just can not seem to understand why Apache and its like
> > are
> > on a Desk Top distribution. This unfortunately NOT the major issue but
> > only a
> > colliery.
> >
> > This computer is a laptop. As such it has the ability to be connected to
> > the
> > internet by eather DSL or modem. For DSL it works in either WiFi mode or
> > in
> > direct cable connection. For dial up it is only direct cable connection.
> > I have made both work and have connected to the internet in 9.1 and 9.2
> > by either DSL or modem but not both. The major problem is no matter what
> > I have
> > tried I can not make the computer connect to the internet by one or the
> > other
> > WITH OUT reinstalling the system. Believe me I have tried. The internet
> > connection configuration wizard allows one method or the other but NOT
> > BOTH.
> > Thus if I set the laptop up to work off DSL I may us it in the office
> > where
> > we have DSL but NOT at home where I have a telephone and NO DSL. If on
> > the other hand I set the computer up to do dial up from home I can not
> > use the computer in the office with DSL and our digital phone system.
> >
> > The point to this whole e-mail is that Mandrake has a long history of
> > putting
> > together half ass distributions that require a higher degree of technical
> > expertise than one should expect for anyone paying money for the
> > distribution. A techie who is NOT going to pay for a fully integrated
> > system
> > when he is completely capable of integrating the system himself. On the
> > other
> > hand anyone who is willing to pay money is most probable NOT capable of
> > doing
> > the integration themself.
> >
> > Lets be more specific and please pass this comment off to the
> > integrators.
> >
> > Hay stupid what do you think we are paying you for to continue to throw
> > out
> > half ass unusable distributions? Because if that is what you think and if
> > you
> > people do not start cleaning these distributions you can look forward to
> > a long stretch of unemployment while Mandrake goes bankrupt again as
> > people like myself refuse to purchase these trash distributions.
> >
> > Point is stop PUTTING OUT THESE TRASH HALF ASS PUT TOGETHER DISTRIBUTIONS
> > WHERE MAJOR CRITICAL COMPONENTS ARE CONTENTLY LEFT OUT.
> >
> > Simply placed where the hell are the drivers that should have been
> > included on
> > the disk.
> >
> > Frank Roberts
> >
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