>>It is then easy to scroll with page down until you come to the new text.
It is the need to scroll that I object to. Imagine if a really long running
thread had every reply contained in it. Bottom posting would require that
the reader scroll through several pages to read each reply.
I agree that top posting doesn't make sense IF the reader were to read the
last message. But most of us on this list (I suspect) are getting these
messages as they are sent, thus it seems to me that top posting works best.
Of course, this is simply my opinion. Bottom post fans will bottom post and
vice-versa.
Ken Elliott
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-----Original Message-----
From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of paddy
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 8:26 PM
To: slug@nks.net
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Re: OT: picked up a screw around rig today
Ken Elliott wrote:
>>>Though I am a bottom-posting bigot, I agree with your implied
>>>suggestion that we not make a federal case of such (comparatively) minor
issues.
>>>We can get along, if we just respect each other in our public
>
> discussions.
>
> Agreed. Even though it takes ever fibre of my body to resist lashing
> out at you silly bottom posters, who insist on making me scroll past
> previously-read text....<grin>
>
>
> Ken Elliott
>
> =====================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of Chad Perrin
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 7:24 PM
> To: slug@nks.net
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Re: OT: picked up a screw around rig today
>
> Ken Elliott wrote:
>
>>A few thoughts:
>>
>>I think we can all agree that e-mail doesn't convey some thoughts very
>>well, and some things come across the wrong way. Perhaps we should
>>allow emotions to settle before responding.
>>
>>All of us tend to step on one another's toes (top vs. bottom posters,
>
>
> DARN YOU! You should be bottom posting!
>
> Ahem. Sorry about that. Please ignore my outburst. Heh.
>
>
>
>>subject line editing, certain comments). I have found myself jumping
>>in and pounding on some subject, when it was actually just a release
>>of emotion pent-up from some other area (frustration at work,
>>politics,
>
> relationships).
>
>>I believe many of us do this and the smart thing would be for us to
>>let it go. This can be difficult when we "push buttons" and trigger
>>emotional responses.
>>
>>This all started because Red Hat posted what appears to be inaccurate
>>information about the minimum amount of RAM required. Now, it is
>>better policy to err on the high side, but the information did come
>>from the vendor. Statements were made that you could actually use
>>less. That's good news, if accurate. I certainly don't know. But
>>it's up to the person who asked for the information to find out if
>>_he_
>
> can make _his_ system work.
>
>>That's all that really matters. My history with Red Hat is poor -
>>lots of installation problems. Other distros have worked much better
>>on _my_ hardware with _me_ doing the install. But that is no
>>indication of the quality of Red Hat. It's just one statistic.
>>
>>It really doesn't matter if knowledge is obtained first, second or
>>67th hand. What matters is the accuracy. Inaccurate knowledge gained
>>first hand is still of little or no value. Accurate information is of
>>value, no matter how it is obtained. To restrict information on the
>>basis of degree of separation strikes me as poor policy. I suggest we
>>continue to offer our information, opinion and speculations, and
>>recognize that those who are better informed are doing a service by
>>providing "error correction". If we remove our egos, then we have a
>
> healthy information sharing system.
>
>>There are very few rules here. Most of us have no right to make
>>demands of others. We are in this for the common good. Shouldn't we
>
> treat it as such?
>
>
> Agreed. Thanks for the voice of reason.
>
> --
> Chad
> --
>
> PS: Of course, the voice of reason would be better presented in
> bottom-posted format.
>
> PPS: Ahem. Pardon my small "running gag" about bottom posting. The
> text of your email was actually complete and self-contained, and as
> such didn't annoy me in the least, despite being top-posted. As you
> point out, though, even if it did annoy me a little by being
> top-posted, I would be ill-served by (seriously) getting upset about it
on-list.
> Generally, my preferred approach to dealing with top-posters is to
> tolerate and accept it, and ask for clarification where the practice
> makes context confusing. In other words: Though I am a bottom-posting
> bigot, I agree with your implied suggestion that we not make a federal
> case of such
> (comparatively) minor issues. We can get along, if we just respect
> each other in our public discussions.
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An easy way to get rid of all of the top posted once read drivel is to set
you email client to print the top posted text in red or fuscha or anything
but black. It is then easy to scroll with page down until you come to the
new text. Why tread down the same old road once again?
Paddy
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