Re: [SLUG] Mac G3 and Yellow Dog Linux

From: James Haydon (jhaydon@stewartsigns.com)
Date: Thu Apr 07 2005 - 09:28:21 EDT


On Wednesday, April 6, 2005, at 12:05 PM, Russ Wright wrote:

> A J
>
> I think I'm going to clean off the drive and just load Linux. OS 9 is
> very slow and I'd like to put something quicker on it. I did some
> digging on the yaboot and discovered that I need yaboot, bootx or quik
> to boot the machine depending on how I configure it.
>
> I finally understand Old Vs. New World and I'm getting a grip on
> configuring the box.
>
> So far I've figured out that this Beige G3 has:
> MAC OS 9.0.4
> 64 MB of Ram
> 4 GB Hard Drive
>
> Looks like Yellow dog will fit, I still need to do more research on the
> boot loader.
>
> Regards
> Russ
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 09:49 -0400, A2L1 wrote:
>> Russ,
>> You have to have a yaboot partition and it is onlysomething like 800k
>> in size.
>> If you still have mac OS 9 or older installed you have to leave all
>> the
>> drivers installed but if you are going to run OS X then they arent
>> necessary,
>> plus if you have no intention of running any mac OS they they are not
>> necessary either.
>> In Apple terminology you have an "old world" unit, anything from a G3
>> B&W up
>> is considered "new world". I know that the beige will run both OSX
>> and Linux
>> so all you really have to do is select which (or both) you want to
>> run and
>> ensure that the HDD is large enough. Thats the problem most people
>> have with
>> installs, the drives dont have enough room.
>> The mac OS X (unix) takes up to 3 gigs for complete install and YD
>> needs
>> something like 1.5 gigs for complete(if I remember right). I think
>> that the
>> problem would be memory and HDD size, and as long as both are large
>> enough
>> then you shouldnt have a problem.
>> There are a few Linux distros out for the mac so dont consuider
>> yourself
>> restricted to YD. Be aware that ones like unbuntu write the mbr and
>> are good
>> for the new world boxes only. I right recommend that you do a little
>> "exploring/research" before you decide on a distro but know that the
>> mac will
>> run faster with Linux on it(or OS X). If I can help let me know and I
>> will
>> try but I am no expert by any means.
>>
>> A J
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday 06 April 2005 07:53, Russ Wright wrote:
>>> AJ
>>>
>>> After some googling about I can now say with some confidence the
>>> computer is a Mac G3 Beige. So far no joy on loading Linux. It
>>> seems I
>>> have to install a boot loader into MAC OS 9 and then it will boot
>>> Linux
>>> from inside the OS.
>>>
>>> There has to be a better way.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Russ
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 18:29 -0400, A2L1 wrote:
>>>> Russ,
>>>> You didnt specify what G3 but I can say that YD runs great on G3
>>>> B&Ws. I
>>>> have had it running a more than one. Currently it is running on a
>>>> G# B&W
>>>> 400 and runs fast and strong. I have Debian on another and it is
>>>> running
>>>> great also. I am in the process of getting Gentoo to load on the
>>>> third
>>>> one but i may just wimp out and install Vitalinux.
>>>> Yes Linux will run great on a G3, Yellow Dog specifically will run
>>>> with
>>>> no problems.
>>>>
>>>> A J
>>>
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I loaded gentoo with bootx on a PDQ (wallstreet 2) laptop. If you need
to go that route you will need OS9. In my case I used 9.2.2. The
laptop is currently running 10.2 and 9.2.2.

James Haydon
Systems Analyst
The J.M. Stewart Corporation
stewartsigns.com

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