SOTL wrote:
>On Friday 10 June 2005 10:50, Robert Snyder wrote:
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>>Damn right schools use fliters.
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>That was not my intent but in that regard do you really want to be limited to
>an ISP that controls what you are able to view; recall you are not 6 years
>old?
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>If you know anything about schools you would know that:
>attendance in one is mandatory if you are between 6 and 16 years old;
>content is determined by what is politically correct;
>you pay the same in taxes if you go to public or private, which of course you
>have to pay for.
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Bottom Line is content flitering on government own internet access it
not something I have a problem with.
Last thing I need is some guy in the booth be hind me at the main st
bar, pulling a Pee-Wee Herman with his laptop why I am trying to have
lunch.
>The way I see this is that you are simply taking the above concepts and
>applying it to the internet with the results that:
>you can only have access to what ports and content that are politicall correct
>and since some content is not politically correct to a one group of wackos or
>another for what ever reason then it should be censored for everybody;
>if you do like the previous idea then you are free to get your own ISP just as
>you are were free to go to a private school but then you are required to pay
>for the service twice - once in taxes and once in payments to your own ISP.
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Actually I have two spearate bills Teleco and DSL I had verizon split
them as it was easier to see what I had to pay. ( I pay the dsl bill and
others pay the phone)
Here are my charges
$7.00 Verizon Online Internet access
$22.95 DSL Circut Charge
Total 29.95
Other fees
FUSF Recovery Fee 4.95 But Verizon dsl customers found out that this
is not a tax or government fee but something Verizon and the others have
made up to charge us with.
Personally I rather had a vote on this mess. I rather had do I want
wifi run by the government, or do I want a smaller cellphone bill. 25%
of any person in Sarasota cell bill ( unless you are on some type of
prepaid plan) is Taxes mainly city county and state. ( the county ones
being cheapest ).
>>Last thing we need is little suszy 6
>>year old at Tutle elementry trying to find something on Ponys on the
>>internet and end up getting animal porn.
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>>Craig had touched on this on his post, but who has the right to bitch
>>about something given out free.
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>If you think any government is providing anything for free you are as wacko as
>they come. Governments receive payment for their services - that what taxes
>are all about - and last I have heard no government allows you to opp out of
>taxes if you do not use their services but you must pay anyway even if you
>are required to contract for other replacement services being that the
>government services are not adequate for one reason or another.
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Don't tell that to the guys they have on the news every year who say
taxes are not manadtory. and they have not paid taxes in 25 years. (
Yes I think these guys are idiots)
>>Yeah I was downtown yesterday for
>>lunch and connected to either unplugged or one of the many wifi spots
>>downtown that are unprotected. I tend not to check email on these type
>>of open systems because I dont know who monitoring what and last thing I
>>need is cached pages sitting on some one servers of my gmail account.
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>At least you are smart enough to figure out that government provided services
>comes with strings attached one being for internet that everything you do
>will be recorded somewhere since the only possible reason you are using there
>service in government opinion is that you are up to something illegal. That
>is call thought control.
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It's not just the governments wifi I stay clear of using when dealing
with my email. It is simply called If I dont know the person who running
that access point at the other end there is no way in hell I am gong to
check my senstive email on it.
but I never go to sites or any place where I have to type in my
user/password. Just dont know who has what going on beyond that access
point. Thats with everyone just not the government.
>>But if the government says hey we will give you free wifi but you cant
>>look at porn or download warez or do xzy who am I to complain it free
>>and you get what you pay for.
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>Strange definition of free. You are still paying taxes to pay for this.
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Free in the sense was I am paying the same amount in taxes before they
had free wifi as compared to now.
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>>If I want to look at all the porn and
>>download all the warez and other crap that the free wifi does not
>>provide I will simply do what I have always done pay for dsl service
>>through verizon. only time I will have an issue with the governments
>>free wifi is it drove private isps out of business which i just dont see.
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>That is another problem with government provided services. They drive free [as
>in open & speech] market enterprises out of business.
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Yeah that is something I would like to see. The city of sarasota taking
down the two largest companies in america. Verizon and Comcast. The
problem is that Muni-Wifi will never be direct competition for verizon
and comcast . If the city decided to do there own fiber to the home
project then I could see it as competiton. As long as the goverment
does not enforce private isp to filter content like they do in china I
am aok with this government provided Wifi.
>Frank
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