A decision on a moment
building, destroying
intent or action
which one counts for effect
morality or ethics
I choose and have chosen
to build my future
also stated as:
|X| = x^2
And is also, coincidentally the reason I support
linux.
This threat seemed so off topic, but piqued my
interest enough to prompt a reply. One thing I would
like to add to the treatise presented here: On a
granular level, without regard to membership in any
organization, people are defined by the contracts
(read promises, covenants, etc.) they make, execute,
and maintain. Morals are a measure of how well a
group adheres to it's own promises. Ethics are more
individual, but a measuer of the same without regard
for the group. I tend to favor my own judgement as
most do, but only in regards for myself. Society is
responsible for it's morals and it's adhereance to
those morals. Interesting enough that society and
indivuals judge people more on morals than ethics.
And in doing so, fail to excercise good ethics. Even
more insteresting is the fact that morals are often
much more subjective than ethics. It gives the phrase
"the blind leading the blind" a interesting viewpoint
when looked at from this angle.
Well, I haven't twisted around logic like this in 15
years. Been Fun though. I'm going to take a lighter
track now and go compile a new kernel :)
Rob
--- michael hast <evylrobot19@cox.net> wrote:
> Robin 'Roblimo' Miller wrote:
>
> >>One hundred years ago man was far more kinder to
> man. We left doors largely
> >>unlocked and when we saw a stranger we greeted
> him. Offered him a chair and
> >>food and drink.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Ummm.... my wife is black and might disagree with
> you about how
> >wonderful things were 100 years ago.
> >
> >Also, 100 years ago in the U.S., there were no
> problems with illegal
> >drugs because marijuana, cocaine, and opium
> derivatives (including
> >Bayer's patented pain reliever, Heroin), were all
> readily available and
> >were sold openly, either on their own or as
> ingredients in products such
> >as Lydia Pinkham's tonic, Coca-Cola, and so on. In
> other words, people
> >back then used drugs. Lots of drugs. The
> illegalization of what are now
> >called "controlled substances" didn't begin until
> 1911.
> >
> >Public hangings were common -- and not just for
> blacks. People starved
> >to death in this country. Routinely. Medical care
> was better than it had
> >been in the 1800s, since the idea of sterilization
> had taken hold -- in
> >large part because the women's auxiliary of the
> First Unitarian Church
> >in Baltimore talked a wealthy church member named
> Johns Hopkins into
> >putting up money for a "scientific" medical school
> in the mid-1800s, and
> >the germ theory was taught there -- and spread. But
> still: no
> >antibiotics, and few of the other life-saving drugs
> and surgical
> >procedures we now take for granted were available.
> >
> >Your local public library -- likely funded by
> Andrew Carnegie -- was the
> >closest thing you had to the Internet. (If you were
> white; non-whites
> >suffered from a major "print divide" because they
> weren't allowed to use
> >most public libraries.)
> >
> >Outside of major cities, almost everyone used
> outhouses. Indoor plumbing
> >didn't become common in rural areas and small towns
> until the Rural
> >Electrification Project in the 1930s. (The REA was
> the kind of
> >government-funded do-gooder project we shun today.)
> >
> >http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/trianglefire/ will tell
> you about the
> >Triangle Factory fire. Public revulsion at the
> deaths it caused led to
> >unionization and better working conditions. My
> maternal grandmother,
> >Annie, had a cousin who died there. Jews were often
> treated little
> >better than blacks back then. There were no
> workplace safety rules, no
> >disability insurance policies, no social security.
> If you got hurt or
> >died on the job, too bad. There were plenty of
> immigrants waiting in
> >line to replace you.
> >
> >A big reason people left their doors unlocked back
> in the good 'ol days,
> >100 years ago, was that someone was almost always
> home. Most people
> >lived on farms. Children commonly got 4 - 8 years
> of schooling, then
> >went to work in the fields or for local businesses.
> Grandparents stayed
> >with their families. Those old, tiny cracker houses
> you see in Ybor City
> >and the older Florida towns often had 10 - 12
> people living in them --
> >all sharing the same outhouse. Plus, there were a
> *lot* of crippled kids
> >to sit on the porches and watch the place. Polio
> epidemics cropped up
> >every few years until mass vaccination in the
> 1950s. And yeah, it was
> >live vaccine and a few kids died or got crippled
> from taking it, but no
> >one sued over what was considered the greatest
> medical miracle of the
> >time. Vaccine developers, especially Doctors Salk
> and Sabin, were
> >considered national heroes.
> >
> >Prostitution was normal. Indeed, for many young,
> unmarried women 100
> >years ago, it was the best career available.
> Venereal disease and
> >pregnancy were known risks, but if you go look at
> the Triangle Factory
> >website, you can see the alternative. I grew up out
> west, where women
> >commonly came as whores, eventually married
> customers -- and started
> >movements to ban saloons and "dance parlors."
> Famous Ambrose Bierce
> >quote about California politicians asking for your
> vote on the basis
> >that they'd been born there (unlike most
> candidates, who had moved there
> >from somewhere else): "The miners came in
> forty-nine, the whores in
> >fifty-one. And when they got together, they made
> the native son."
> >
> >(If you don't know who Ambrose Bierce was, you're
> missing some of the
> >funniest and most warped writing ever done on this
> continent. Go down to
> >the Carnegie Library and check out "The Devil's
> Dictionary." You'll love
> >it.)
> >
> >Anyway, I think life has gotten better over the
> last 100 years.
> >
> >If nothing else, tires last longer and cars need
> tuneups less often. And
> >- WAIT - most of us have cars now, while hardly
> anyone did back then.
> >
> >- Robin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
> ;-)
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