Re: [SLUG] Debian

From: Mike Branda (mike@wackyworld.tv)
Date: Wed Dec 28 2005 - 16:08:54 EST


On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 15:13 -0500, SOTL wrote:
> Thanks for your help.
>
> This is getting damn flustering.
> The objective was to make a small MySQL server of basely a telephone directory
> of clients for our business.
>
> What I have firmly established is that doing such with the current disarray in
> Commercial Linux distributions, Red Hat, SuSE, and Mandriva, that that is not
> possible for anyone on the lass that guru level.
>

Frank,

Really, with all due respect, don't go complaining about the distros
because you don't understand how to set it up. I took a guy who had
never used linux outside of a failed attempt a few years back and let
him run with apache, mysql and several other things. He googled, read
everything in /usr/share/doc/ howto and packages (different for some
distros) and had NO problems setting up the services. Adding Open
Office in would be child's play since all it has to do is connect to the
database.

What you need to do is step back and do things one by one. Install the
latest distro _you_ are most comfortable with. Install the packages for
mysql and open office and whatever else you need to connect the two.
Then start simple. Find out where your distro stores docs and start
there. They will relate to your distro best. It won't help you to
follow gentoo instructions from google if you're on suse. Files are in
the wrong place and more. Then google "mysql howto" or whatever piece
you are working on one at a time. I would get a working mysql server
and database that you can connect to from the command line. i.e. fix
any config files as necessary and start the service using
"/etc/init.d/mysql start" (again, different per distro) and then login
from a shell "mysql -p -u root". If you can get that far then you can
move on. Post here as you come to a point that you can't get further.
Better yet, join a mysql list. They'll probably be able to help faster
and easier. Jumping from distro to distro isn't going to help.

> Believe me, I have tried this 6 times now 3 last night 3 today using both a
> standard Debian Desktop Installation and a choose package installation and
> all I have gotten is a installation that immediately installs apparently the
> same command line installation.

If you don't understand how to do custom things. why aren't you taking
the advice of people here and selecting the default kde blanket and then
going from there?? That would surely get you to a point where you can
do things. Don't select "manual package selection" since you don't
understand how to select things manually. Select "(quoting Michael
Hast) "desktop environment" along with whatever groups of packages you
want". He blatantly said that that will get you to a GUI login.

>
> I will state one thing though that is sure to get me flamed but from the user
> perspective unless SuSE, Mandriva and Red Hat clean their act up fast.

I've used SuSE and Red Hat and believe me they've both come a very very
long way. Both of them have worked for me in this "small company"
without flaw for different purposes for 2 years now. Can't speak for
Mandrake/Mandriva.

Mike Branda Jr.

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