Re: Now RBL's. Was Re: [SLUG] Sites on IP

From: steve szmidt (steve@szmidt.org)
Date: Tue Apr 11 2006 - 23:33:03 EDT


On Tuesday 11 April 2006 20:42, Logan Tygart wrote:
> > It's hard to knock people trying their best to solve a problem not solved
> > so far. It's also too easy to get on these blacklists and not easy enough
> > to get off. Not easy to balance...
>
> Hogwash. If your IP is on one of these lists, you deserve it. There is
> no reason why my mail server should accept mail from open-relays,
> non-existant email addresses, nor spoofers. Until administrator
> incompetency is abated from the internet, RBL's are a simple step to
> bypass the incompetent. I prefer to reject an email, than waste CPU
> cycles, trying to deliver and eventually /dev/nulling garbage. My
> client's indicate they appreciate it too.
>
> The Logan

Hogwash yourself!

I can get you blacklisted and I'm not even your customer.

I totally agree on a no tolerance of spammers. Indeed, I booted a buddy of
mine way back when spamming was not even a problem. And he did not try to
scam anyone as they do now. Just promote his business.

The point is that I can get you blacklisted even as your customer on whatever
setup you have. It's pretty easy to figure out. As long as you allow people
to send email they can spam. I bet I could get you blacklisted even if you
only allowed 10 emails per day, per customer.

Poor administration is a problem, but the real problem is 1) smtp and 2) the
ethics level of the spammer.

Blocking IP's, etc, is not solving the problem as it does not even touch on
the backwards priorities of these people. Whatever you do to stop someone,
someone is going to figure out a way around it.

-- 

Steve Szmidt

"For evil to triumph all that is needed is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided as an unmoderated internet service by Networked Knowledge Systems (NKS). Views and opinions expressed in messages posted are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of NKS or any of its employees.



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