On 11/27/06, Rich Morgan <rmorgan@heavysystems.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, November 27, 2006 11:48 am, Robert Snyder wrote:
> > This is the whole Anti microsoft crap that gives linux a bad
> name. Why
> > do
> > people want to protest this crap! Simple to keep a long standing troll
> > flaming war on.
>
> No, this doesn't give Linux a bad name. This means the Linux community
> stands for something more than money. We stand for choice and
> unencumbered software. People are protesting this because it goes against
> those ideals.
I dont see how a anti microsoft troll is postive image for people.
> Personally this is nothing but a good postive step.
>
> More Linux community leaders disagree than agree with your feelings.
They disagree because they cant see past the stupid IP issues. All they see
is Novell paying microsoft. Not the millions of dollars of Suse presales
and promotion microsoft will be doing or the support certificates they are
handing out for Suse users.
Novell insist that they are not paying for ms patents rights and MS says
they are. But the linux community seems to side with MS on this arugement
hence why people are protesting this deal. All it shows is how close minded
peoplw can be.
> In all honestly if there is IP issues I think the dedicated opensource
> > community could rewrite anything that might (keyword there is might ) be
> > in violation of Micrsofts IP. But to have Microsoft support issues
> > invloving linux servers intergrating with there own products in
> priceless.
>
> Ah, but you're assuming that Microsoft will give the kernel developers the
> chance to fix any IP "infringement" issues. Seeing as how SCO didn't give
> anyone that chance (because they really didn't have any proof) AND
> Microsoft was bankrolling the SCO case, I'm not seeing Microsoft playing
> fair with this case, either.
And the SCO cases when no where! So if MS is pulling the same old SCO crap
then there no reason to concern with MS lawsuits. At the same time I dont
think MS would give Kernel developers time to fix before a lawsuit but if MS
had real creadible proof, then it will be like any other IP infringment
case. Fix the problems or pay the patent holder.
> So this ultimately this microsoft / novell deal will do more good than
> > harm. As any microsoft ip issues can be taken care of with simple
> > rewriting of the code.
>
> You're making some large assumptions with those two sentences - especially
> the last sentence. You assume: 1) There really is infringement,
1. No i said if there is! Big difference. Key word there is IF.
2)
> Microsoft will offer Linux developers a chance to remedy the infringement
> without taking the case to court
Never said MS would be that nice but I did imply that what ever the issue
was it could be fix. Be it pre or post lawsuit.
3) The offending code would be trivial
> to rewrite
If there is that serious of an IP violation than microsoft should sue.
This is assuming that he violaiton is not something stupid like the sco
cases
4) The intellectual property infringed upon can be worked
> around without any loss of kernel functionality.
See number 3. again if it is that seriouse linux is getting what it deserves
assuming MS has a creadiable case with proof of violation.
v/r,
> Rich Morgan
> OpenAddict.com
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