{SPAM?} Re: [SLUG] Robins Article About Microsoft Open Source Evangelist

From: David R. Meyer (david@davidmeyer.org)
Date: Sun Dec 24 2006 - 18:18:34 EST


I have to agree...it came across as anything but a joke, as the examples
were from experiences that people in the lug (mainly Bill ande others)
have experienced at events with MS.

I thought it was pretty well thought out though Bill...I'll give you
that much.

Robert Snyder wrote:
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> On 12/24/06, *xcalibre* <xcalibre@mindspring.com
> <mailto:xcalibre@mindspring.com>> wrote:
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> Did the Word Joke Cross Your Mind? Kinda like Microsoft Trying to
> jump on the Open Source Band Wagon!!
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> If that was a joke, that was the worst misconcieved joke ever.
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> Bill...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Snyder
> Sent: Dec 24, 2006 2:37 PM
> To: slug@nks.net <mailto:slug@nks.net>
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Robins Article About Microsoft Open Source
> Evangelist
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> On 12/23/06, *xcalibre* <xcalibre@mindspring.com
> <mailto:xcalibre@mindspring.com>> wrote:
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> After Microsoft carrying the death kneel with them I would
> have to have Microsoft sign a few things...
>
> A agreement not to sue or pursue any legal action for
> talking to Open Source Reporters about the intent of what
> Microsoft is up to by wanting a Open Source Evangelist.
>
> Next a agreement to not force some one to sign a NDA on any
> Open Source Matters or Concerns that Microsoft has.
>
>
> Why should you target Microsoft. I have seen Redhat NDAs and I
> am sure Redhat is not the only LINUX COMPANY to use them. They
> deal strictly with open source so why should they be given a by
> and Microsoft be forced disclose everything.
>
>
> Next an agreement not to force anyone to sign a no compete form.
>
>
> Another one sided MS low blow. They cant force anyone to sign a
> non compete form, if they did such a thing the federal
> government would be all over them like white on rice.
>
> Next a agreement not to sue some one for coming up with
> product or solution or claim it is intellectual property of
> Microsoft because it can do some thing that Microsoft or its
> products can not.
>
>
> MS and Intellectual property,well that is a 20 page rant so I
> will just skip this one.
>
> Next a form to allow the person to still be a member of a
> Lug without any strings attached.
>
>
> I have friends who are Microsoft Employees who attend lug
> meetings with out fear of loosing there job. ( it is a ms myth
> that they fire linux users ) They go as them selves and not
> representives of MS.
>
> Next a agreement to allow the person to wear any Polo Dress
> Style Shirts with a Lug, or Linux Product Logo or a TUX.
>
>
> Just like it is ok for a pepsi employee to wear coke stuff to
> work and around town right?
>
>
> Next a agreement to allow the person to hand out Linux Cd's
> at any Microsoft Event or Location without being forced to
> move away from the event or Location.
>
>
> This is a Microsoft Event not Linuxworld. If they paid for
> there both at a MS Event well you would have a point. But I
> would not want a cd shoved in my face any more than I want the
> local homeless begging me for beer money.
>
>
> Next Microsoft Agrees that any event they are at such as a
> CTS, or ITEC to allow the persons Lug to participate in as
> well and advertise such that there is Open Source Presence
> with out trying to run them off or their members wearing any
> Linux Logo Shirts.
>
>
> Agreed assuming the lug paid for there spot at the event like
> everyone else.
>
> Next Microsoft to agree to make the person a part of their
> Tech Net, give a 2 year Action Pack Subscription.
>
>
> Why? why should MS give you any thing! They are not a chairity.
>
> Also access to any Beta Products especially anything that
> will interact with Open Source Software or Linux.
>
>
> See the above topic unreasonable.
>
> Finally agree a person to write about their adventures and
> experiences with Microsoft without being sued for any royalty.
>
>
> Many speak freely with out concern. Yet another MS myth. While
> it has happend in the pass it is not a common day occurence.
>
> I doubt this would even have any chance for Microsoft to
> Agree to all these Terms. OBTW I almost forgot Microsoft to
> sign an Agreement for any Expenses up front that the person
> may encounter, Travel, Food, Lodging, Rental Car, etc.,
>
>
> Please again see the above about MS not being a chairity.
>
> I seriously think they would have a Stroke over these
> conditions. If not then I would maybe tempted.
>
>
> Or think that your a lunatic one of the two.
>
> Bill Preece
>
> P.S. Robin please contact me when you get a chance.
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