On 12/25/06, savatage@mindspring.com <savatage@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Again let me rephrase this DONE!
> Also no need to take things personally nor to Cuss.
> Nothing was directed towards you personally.
> So that said done if you want to go on with this take it where it belongs
> to the politics list how ever I AM DONE with this and do not say oh no your
> not. It's a done subject...
I want a real answer out of you. Also it is christmas stop being rude and
stop top posting.
Good Day!
>
> Happy Holidays to Everyone
>
> Bill..
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Robert Snyder <robertsnyder@gmail.com>
> >Sent: Dec 25, 2006 7:56 AM
> >To: slug@nks.net
> >Subject: Re: [SLUG] Robins Article About Microsoft Open Source Evangelist
> >
> >On 12/24/06, xcalibre <xcalibre@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think for some reason you are snapping a bit here...
> >> Who said I would take advantage of expenses if they expect some one to
> >> travel and be a Evangelist they would
> >> have to pay for the travels... Did we not pay Maddog's Expenses....hmmm
> >> YES WE DID!
> >>
> >> So a $30.00 to $40.00 a night motel is out of the question when their
> >> other employees get top treatment
> >> say up to a few hundred per day? Yeah look out for that wallet.
> >>
> >
> >That more than reasonable but with your attitude I would expect you to
> milk
> >the cow for all the money she was worth.
> >
> >
> >
> >> Also who said I was saying anything about NDA is OK with others where
> did
> >> you draw that from
> >> I did not say that you jumped to that conclusion?
> >>
> >
> >
> >Because you got on Microsoft case about NDAs. Just saying there not the
> >only ones who use them so why even list such a illogical condition .
> >
> >
> >> Also you seem to be high strung on all the comments I made about
> >> Microsoft.
> >>
> >
> >No I just dont like how you went about it. With half ass remarks and
> lame
> >jokes.
> >
> >
> >> As for access to their Products... Well how would we compare them to
> the
> >> Open Source Equivlants?
> >> What spend a few thousand dollars here and there out of pocket?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >You would be given terminal server access to the applications you
> need. No
> >personal licences are allow to lead the campus. It was a hassle to fill
> out
> >all the forms just to let my friend Jason bring home a work copy
> of Visual
> >Studio. Most of the time they want you logged into a departmental
> terminal
> >server that has the requested applications installed.
> >
> >
> > You just came out jumping in anger on this whole thing so in best
> judgement
> >> to drop it..
> >> This was not to have some one come unglued and snap...
> >>
> >
> >Anger no. You have not seen WeeRobby angery. This is not even a rant by
> my
> >standards.
> >
> >
> >
> >> It was merely a way to give some things to think about and see how far
> >> would they honestly go to prove their
> >> Honesty and see if there is any strings attached...
> >>
> >> Hey Microsoft did a nice job with Corel when they Partnered supposedly
> and
> >> thus we see Corel say ok OUR FRIENDS and PARTNERS is wanting us to use
> .net,
> >> and give us money! OBTW when did the latest Corel WordPerfect for Linux
> Come
> >> out, Corel Draw for Linux? and Corel's OS... umm it has not since the
> >> Partnership...
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Yet another BS truth by you.
> >
> >A. Corel stop making a Wordperfect for linux and Corel Draw for linux
> long
> >before Corel jumped on the whole .Net deal.
> >
> >B. They werent even native linux ports just windows hackjobs using wine
> >
> >C. They were not completely stable either alot of strange bugs where in
> both
> >products mainly to item B.
> >
> >Now wine development and it porting process to build linux compatible
> >binaries from windows application source code has become much better. I
> >believe they could come back out with another verison of WP for linux and
> >not have half the problems as there 2nd attempt at it. Will it happen
> no.
> >Why ? Because Wordperfect is a dying application that only found on a few
> >select oems on there machines they dont bundle office with.
> >
> >I loved word perfect I grew up on wp 5.1 dos I still remember most of the
> >keyboard commands and still have the keyboard key card around here some
> >where. But you go ahead think the world is one giant MS conspircy and
> that
> >we all are really living in some pod full of goo to feed the electrical
> >needs of the MS supercomputer hive mind.
> >
> >
> > Oh how do you like the Partnership of Novell and Microsoft.. Must be
> nice
> >> to sing a Partnership being one of the Wealthiest Companys and yet get
> paid
> >> off from a company that is only a shadow of it's one self right?? Like
> >> Novell has 30 Million to give out to some one who demanded terms of
> Source
> >> Code given to them as well.
> >>
> >
> >Oh what about the all the millions of dollars MS gave novell for support
> >contracts for there clients. Got Windows, Got a MS support Contract ,
> Here
> >we are giving you a novell support contract for free. I now have 5 of
> >these ms supplied novell support contracts I have yet to register them .
> >But they were given out so corporations could try suse basically risk
> free.
> >With out worry of support.
> >
> >I am not here to defend the novell deal with MS. I will let the novell
> >people explain for why the gave 30 million to MS.
> >
> >
> >> I am going to be straight up Microsoft does not want Open Source to
> exist
> >> or any where near them... They keep pushing us at two CTS Shows as in
> Leave
> >> our Booth, and Do not stand out front and give out Free Cd's and Swag
> obtw
> >> only Microsoft could give out Limited Demos at the show and was trying
> to
> >> get us thrown out! Fact there was witnesses to this and even a few
> stories
> >> done on this with us.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Again plain and simple if it is a Microsoft event it the farest thing
> from
> >Linux world your going to get.
> >
> >That is like standing in a Coke Share holders meeting trying to hand out
> >free pepsi.
> >
> >
> > Also guess who was at ITEC when we first did shows? Guess what everyone
> was
> >> on the list for the event We Were Not!
> >> The Person who booked us told me that someone did not want us to have
> >> presence there also they protested to his Boss about putting us on the
> Event
> >> List.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >Hey money talks. Yeah you got screwed. But nothing stops you from
> >protesting outside on public property.
> >
> >
> >
> > Enough I'm done with this whole topic!!!...
> >>
> >
> >
> >Oh no you cant be done with it you started it!
> >
> >
> >> Happy Holidays...
> >> Bill Preece...
>
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