Re: [SLUG] One more reason...

From: Eben King (eben01@verizon.net)
Date: Sat Oct 17 2009 - 00:19:49 EDT


On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, Chuck Hast wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 21:53, Eben King <eben01@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Ken Elliott wrote:
>>
>>> Robin 'Roblimo' Miller wrote on Friday, October 16, 2009 4:53 PM:
>>>
>>>> Chuck Hast wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Did anyone read this?? interesting piece of info...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/10/avoid_windows_mal
>>>>> ware_bank_on.html
>>>>
>>>> No question. My wife once had someone access her business bank account
>>>> and
>>>> try to grab money (they failed) as a result of her accessing the Internet
>>>> while running Windows. She uses Windows for Paint Shop Pro, but uses
>>>> Linux
>>>> for everything else, just as I use Windows for video editing (on a
>>>> dedicated
>>>> "video appliance" comouter) and Linux for everything else.
>>
>>> Let me add...
>>>
>>> Use a Linux or BSD Unix on a
>>
>>                       freshly booted
>>
>>>                             LIVE CD.  Any hard disk-based OS is subject to
>>> compromise.
>>
>> Volatile data has to go somewhere.  Memory structures in RAM can be changed.
>>
>> IMO these are all extreme precautions.  Few people are actually going to
>> take the time to shut down and reboot off a liveCD to access a web site.
>> OTOH, booting a VM from an iso isn't _that_ much trouble, so you could go
>> that route.
>>
> Remember that many of the keyboard loggers run at the driver level so even
> though you have a iso running in a VM which is inside a windows machine,
> (if that is what you are thinking) the keyboard logger is still scraping
> your key entries.

Actually I was only considering a Linux host and things you picked up while
browsing and attacks on various daemons and the IP stack, but you're right.
My words were ambiguous.

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          They that can give up essential liberty to
           obtain a little temporary safety deserve
          neither liberty nor safety. -- Ben Franklin

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