On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 03:09:27PM -0400, Smitty wrote:
> Perhaps you have taken too many of your dad's drugs, Isaiah, YOU reread
> the thread. I asked you why do we have to be perfect? You're believing
> your own psychobabble, now. Lack of perfection does not imply we "need"
> psych treatment. That's a non-sequitur conclusion.
You're smoking crack again Smitty. Much more psychotropic than
anything I'm on. ;)
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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:22:02 -0400
From: Smitty <76543a@mpinet.net>
Subject: Re: [SLUG-POL] The Lunatic state of California
To: slug-politics@nks.net
> MOST (where most is the largest group in a group of groups)
> descriptions in the DSM volumes diagram extreme cases, this is true; it's
> up to the interpretation of the physician (remember, psychiatrists are
> medical doctors, too, which last I checked, was a field of science) to
> determine it's relation to the patient. We're not machines, nearly
> everybody requires slightly different treatments.
You are mistaken. "Everybody" does not require "treatments".
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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:03:41 -0400
From: Isaiah Weiner <iweiner@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [SLUG-POL] The Lunatic state of California
To: slug-politics@nks.net
> You are mistaken. "Everybody" does not require "treatments".
If you're alive, then you need treatment of some sort. No one is
perfect and leads the perfect life, yielding the perfect body and mind.
What you're saying is very similar to someone saying, "I have no problems"
when the reality is, everyone has problems of one severity or another.
Now, I'm not suggesting you get pumped full of thorazine and strapped
to a table for the rest of your life, I'm suggesting you seek out
homoepathic solutions, pro-actively, for future problems so you can avoid
them.
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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:14:30 -0400
From: Smitty <76543a@mpinet.net>
Subject: Re: [SLUG-POL] The Lunatic state of California
To: slug-politics@nks.net
> If you're alive, then you need treatment of some sort. No one is
> perfect and leads the perfect life, yielding the perfect body and mind.
> What you're saying is very similar to someone saying, "I have no
> problems"
> when the reality is, everyone has problems of one severity or another.
No, we do not need any treatment. Why do we have to be perfect?
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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:28:32 -0400
From: Isaiah Weiner <iweiner@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [SLUG-POL] The Lunatic state of California
To: slug-politics@nks.net
> No, we do not need any treatment. Why do we have to be perfect?
The obvious answer to that question is, "It doesn't hurt to improve
your body constantly through gentle, positive means." The same is true for
your mind.
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> > If you can cite them, I'll ask some contacts at various medical
> > school administrations why they were discounted. ;)
>
> Dolisos and BHH have published these findings. You would have to look
> into that with them. There is the lead.
But I don't give a shit about it. I'm perfectly happy seeing people
that want to pursue it, pursue it through existing avenues. ;)
If you want the answer, cite it with more precision.
> O.K. Psychiatry is made up of many entities. So, why haven't these
> entities gotten together in the almost two hundred years of their
> existence to clean up the field? There is no valid excuse for this. The
> vast majority are covertly in agreement with the use of inhumane, brutal
> "treatments". The APA is just full of b.s. excuses and lies.
For the same reason it took the AMA its entire existance to recognize
accupuncture as a legit practice: they're slow to change, for the impact it
will have on the millions of people it affects.
> > How do you think that will come into play with prisoners WANTING
> > chemical castration?
>
> Give them an icepick and a hammer and tell them shove the pick into their
> eye socket, then swish it around.
Oh, right, so death is the answer. First, letting them do that is
illegal in 48 states. Second, you're a kook!
> Thank you. I start this week.
What are you doing?
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- Isaiah
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