Re: Re: [SLUG] Pro-Linux at MCSE Site

From: Kevin Fogleman (snotr0cket@home.com)
Date: Sat Aug 11 2001 - 20:58:35 EDT


Jeez, maybe you guys need to get drafted into a real war to put things back
into perspective. Sheesh, you are all so dramatic.

--Kevin Fogleman

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul M Foster <paulf@quillandmouse.com>
To: <slug@nks.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 6:10 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: [SLUG] Pro-Linux at MCSE Site

> False administrivia bounce (unarmored word).
>
> ----- Forwarded message from slug@lists.nks.net -----
>
> From: Bill <selinux@home.com>
> To: mdlug@radiusnet.net
> Subject: Fwd: Re: [SLUG] Pro-Linux at MSCE Site
> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 15:24:26 -0400
>
> Recently MDLUG was approached by Microsoft reps. about the idea
> of a meeting with us.
>
> For whatever reason, MDLUG has accepted that offer.
>
> I think that is a mistake.
> I think we need to admit our mistake.
> I think we need to c*ncel the meeting.
> Forthwith.
>
> I spoke out about this originally. I am still speaking out about
> it. I think the original decision was foolish and based on a
> foundation of ego and not of reasoning. Examine, if you will,
> your motivations for engaging in dialogue with an enemy who
> takes few hostages ... and kills those few.
>
> This offer of a meeting is the beginning of a lethal embrace. It
> is just the first act of a three act play ... Embrace, Extend,
> Extinguish. That is no friendly embrace; it's the hug of a boa.
>
> As you can see from the MDLUG meeting offer, the Tokyo job
> offers ( http://tlug.linux.or.jp/ ) and the "pro-Linux" MSCE
> site mentioned below, the offer of a meeting is not a local
> initiative; it is part of a carefully orchestrated embrace. It
> is timed to coincide with the backpedaling out of Redmond. Have
> you not noticed the MSFT PR people stating their bosses were
> wrong in speaking so harshly about Linux & the GPL?
>
> PR people do not state that the boss blundered if they value
> their jobs. Unless the boss told them to say that. The frontal
> assault didn't go over very well. Not in the press, not on the
> web and not in the corporate boardrooms. The above mentioned
> olive branches are flanking manuevers. When it comes to the art
> of war, Bill Gates has no equal. Do not underestimate the man.
>
> You guys are talking like we've won and it is time to gracefully
> accept a capitualtion and surrender. Little could be further
> from the truth. All we've done is get the gorilla ticked off.
> We've pricked him enough with a pin that he's starting to notice
> and react . That's no olive branch ... that's a stick.
>
> Bill
>
> ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Pro-Linux at MSCE Site
> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:56:32 -0400
> From: Frank Roberts - SOTL <sotl155360@earthlink.net>
> To: slug@nks.net
>
>
> One of the fastest ways to silence critics is to agree with
> them.
>
> If you fight you have a war.
> If you agree then there is nothing to fight about.
>
> Once you agree then the the other party who may not be
> completely fixed in their opinion becomes [open] to suggestions
> which may convert them back to your point of view.
>
> Frank
>
> On Friday 10 August 2001 10:59 PM, you wrote:
> (Clipped)
> > edoc wrote:
> > > I recently unsubscribed from a MSCE list and they asked why.
> > > I wrote:
> > >
> > > "I am switching to Linux-Unix and thus have no need for MSCE
> > > information. M$ policies and products have become
> > > unacceptable.
> > > Thanks! Doc"
> > >
> > > Here is his unexpected reply ...
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the reply, and I agree with your comments, I
> > > > hope Linux reaches the masses soon because it's certainly
> > > > more stable, plus no politics and monopolistic measures.
> > > > That's one reason we started covering more than just MCSE
> > > > stuff, the newsletter name will be changed in the future.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again and I wish you the best;
> > > > Gary
> > > > MCSEnews Digest
> > >
> > > Curiouser and curiouser ... Doc
>
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