Re: [SLUG] Bandwidth hogs, pay up!

From: Ian C. Blenke (icblenke@nks.net)
Date: Wed Apr 10 2002 - 18:09:15 EDT


On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 12:55, Bpreece wrote:
> Right now Time Warner Road Runner is not full speed and as for their Prices
> they just raised them about 5 months ago.
> If Time Warner was giving you full bandwidth with Road Runner you would
> recieve 10 - 15mb full tilt. Right now best you will get
> is 756 k down and 256k up. Hey look Dsl but Cable is suppose to be faster
> then DSL oh wait they are capping the modems.

Full bandwidth at the moment "should be" around 6M (or more, I want to
say as much as 9M) down and 384k up max. Realistically, I get up to 4M
down at times (from peak performing sites, usually late at night), but
the upload cap is killing me.

I'd love to try to look at my cablemodem's settings, but I can't get my
Motorola Cybersurf to respond to me in any way (TFTP, console, or
otherwise).

For a fun time, check out:

http://wizdom.blenke.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=18&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

> They are over sold the service and now with everyone setting up home
> networks with the little Link sys routers it yet kills more bandwidth.
> Yes the bandwidth is going away. How ever if they gave full speed it would
> not be that noticeable. They are trying to blame the customer for their poor
> service. Also they do not support Standard DOCSIS Cable modems you can buy
> at Best Buys or Staples or Office MAX why do you think this is? I will tell
> you because buy using proprietary modems they can cap your speed! If you
> used your own it would not be capped.

They support only the DOCSIS Cable Modems they supply you with so they
can control the configuration. Honestly, they would be stupid to allow
people to put in and control their own network access equipment anyway,
even if they didn't cap at the edge.

If you have an old Motorola Surfboard cablemodem, you could use this:

        http://surfboardhack.com

.. and then you would not be capped, and still use their service with
their equipment. Unethical, yes, but interesting.

> Also anyone thinking you can software uncap it wrong it is set from the
> switch to your modem when ever you first connect to the net.

The DOCSIS config is indeed tftped from their central config site, and
the connection is encrypted with an md5 secret of some sort.

> If they would support DOCSIS then let you use your own modem it would reduce
> their cost for Equipment maintenance. Thus making it cheaper.
> How ever they say if then they did this that when a storm hits if Lightning
> hits your modem then you would be sol other wise gee they really care? NOT!

If I hear one more 1st level RR tech tell me "I'm going to reset your
modem real quick, hold on", I may snap.

> Also I wonder why the stores still stock these Modems considering you can
> not use them!!!!!!!!! Every model that the local Brandon Best Buys , Staples
> and Office max Sells has at least one of the 3 to 6 different brands
> returned! They are useless and these stores do not know why. Perhaps if
> they chain stores would group together they could raise enough stink so they
> could sell products the consumer can use.

Good luck. It's Time Warner's network. They are in control (not that I
blame them).
 
> I also remember almost 3 years ago when I first got Road Runner it would fly
> me and my friends use to have a network setup using it to talk to 3 boxes in
> Different parts in Tampa they stopped that ability they stopped game servers
> they stopped ftp's. They also then started to cut the bandwidth.

I've not seen those blocks in place. You can do all of that now, but the
upload cap of 384k really hurts any kind of a game server.
 
> To test your speed you go to the URL called speed only. This is a Bs test it
> is on their side of the network and only their customers can use it.
> There is other sites that my friends whom use Dsl can pound faster then I
> can. This is things that I think TW should fix.

They're working on it, to a certain extent.
 
> If Road Runner truly has to have a fiber optic serviceable area to be
> available in then why should there be a band width issue? Any one know how
> fast data can go over fiber optics? How ever I bet if you test someone's
> bandwidth that has AOL's Cable they will smoke OLE Road Runner why you ask
> because AOL own Time Warner they do not Own Road Runner so they say. So they
> want to make you switch.

At the moment, there is an OC12 (622Mb/s) ring in town that is being
upgraded to be a full OC192 (9.9Gb/s) THIS WEEK. There is an outage
Friday morning where they're cutting it in, I believe. They'll run the
two rings simultaneously for a bit before tearing down the old OC12
ring.

> Also Earthlink can not honor my credits through their Cable service cause
> they have problems with Time Warner Holding the service of Cable and
> Billing. So I am switching to DSL. Raise rates what a bunch of thieves.

Why not look at wireless access? I'm really gung-ho about starting up an
802.11b mesh in Tampa. Sites like pdxwireless (now personaltelco) and
the like are far ahead of anything we have in Tampa. A few friends and I
are working at getting some AP hardware that can run the OpenAP software
and get low-cost self meshing APs installed throughout some
neighborhoods (Sputnik is something quite different, but holds some
promise as well).
 
- Ian



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