At 09:56 PM 8/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>As for ISPs and such, I dunno. Qmail is known to be a solid,
>well-engineered and secure product. Unfortunately, many people are
>repelled by Dan Bernstein's attitude toward open sourcing his source
>code. And I don't know of a single distro that provides qmail on their
>CDs.
Yes, the distro's want to change the location to their way and he won't
allow that.
There are unofficial RPM's but I always advise people to stay away from
them and download and install the tar.gz's.
Dave Sill has a great set of instructions called Life With qmail at :-
http://www.lifewithqmail.org/
Generally, the user can change the install location but Dan doesn't want
the default to be changed wholesale by distributors.
Also he won't support those changes because of the problems in support they
create.
Many on the qmail list are of the same opinion, as I stated in an earlier
thread, but there are some RPM maintainers there that may help you.
It's the same with the BSD's, Solaris, HP-UX etc.
Also, he doesn't want qmails name to be sullied by people that take it,
make some changes and add bugs.
He wants it in the same location on every system so it simplifies the docs
and support.
He makes some good points on his web site about that and Unix in general
(better find the link I suppose... http://cr.yp.to/compatibility.html
and personally, I agree, but hey, that's just my opinion.
As I run 13 os's, it's a big deal and I've had to make notes of the
locations of app's on different OS's.
A right pain.
Dan can also be abrasive (when he appears on the list, which is rare), but
there again, it's the safe. secure and small/efficient programs he creates
that I am interested in, not his politics, philosophy, color of his socks etc.
Theo Raadt of OpenBSD is also abrasive, but produces great work. I guess
they are geniuses in their own way. I've heard people on various mailing
lists say they would never use their software because they were rude and
arrogant. When you think about it; that probably tells you more about
them and there ego's than anything else. It's pretty childish to refuse to
use something just because you don't like someone. (I guess I'm rambling a
bit, so I better end this).
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>
> > September/October 2001 of 1 million random IP's gave the following results
> > :-
> >
> > sendmail 42%
> > qmail 17%
> > Exchange/IIs - 18.4%
> > Postfix 1.5%
> > Exim 1.5%
> >
>
>Interesting point. This measures only those who advertise port 25 or the
>like at their IP. I don't, and I wonder how many others don't as well.
>
>Paul
Who knows ?
Anyone want to do a survey ? Paul ?
A million IP's times the number IP's you will scan.
I think you would get :-
1) A lot of complaints from users/system admins
2) Probably lose your account for port scanning
3) Might get sued
4) Find yourself in lots of portsentry and other 'denied' files
lol...
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