Mindspring, IJ, and AOL seem to resell RoadRunner as well.
>From a sniff of DOCSIS broadcast DHCP announcements that I've been
sniffing on my MLK network leg, I've found the following DOCSIS config
file prefixes floating about:
isao* - AOL
isel* - ???
isrc* - RoadRunner Corporate
isrr* - RoadRunner Residential
I've also found a few DNS reverses within the RoadRunner delegated
netblocks that reverse to mindspring.com addresses (they seem to be
using the Residential DOCSIS profiles though).
Man, what I would give to have the Corporate "isrcip1bw13.bin" DOCSIS
profile: 3Mb down and 1Mb up. But, no, I'm stuck with the normal
Residential profile of 2Mb down and 384k up.
- Ian C. Blenke <icblenke@nks.net> <ian@blenke.com>
http://ian.blenke.com
On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 02:31, bpreece1@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
> Oasis DSL was actually reselling Road Runner Service as DSL.
> So reselling has been done.
>
> How ever they were not allowed to do so.
> Also there is alot of things with this.
>
> 1. Reliability of equipment and service.
> 2. COST, Including Equipment, Power, Connectivity, Major ISP providers
> service cost, Servers, Maintance
> Lightning protection especially this time a year.
> 3. Bandwidth if you tried to have 20 users with connecting at 56k you will
> not have any bandwidth left to make it worth while.
> 4. If we throw the SLUG name to it then it creates a Finical problem because
> we are non-profit.
> 5. As for back to the cost the equipment you need would be still in the 5
> grand range to make it even considerable to be decent service.
> When I use to work for a BBS to set up for Cyber Cup it was running
> $1,000.00 just for the phone lines.
> This was for 20 to 35 users to be online at one time.
> Now if you are going to go for DSL then hold on to your wallets to get
> enough bandwidth again then you have to get Verizons to license you to run
> your service next you got the FCC to deal with. In short it is more costly
> to do all of this for less then 100 people then for each to get them selves
> broadband.
> So is it possible to have 20 users at 20.00 each to pay for all this each
> month ? I do not see it possible.
> Oh and if we did this in Tampa then Sarasota would have to pay long
> distance, Port Charlotte etc.,
> So has anyone though about the cost of 800 access numbers.
>
> Perhaps I am wrong but I know most are not looking at TCO with the right
> figures.
>
> As for Wireless slowwwww , many things to go wrong and again FCC license to
> broadcast a strong signal and equipment and repeaters etc.,
>
> Perhaps I am wrong but I do not see it being as easy as most think to do
> this.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "steve" <steve@itcom.net>
> To: <slug@nks.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 11:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Here's a crazy idea...
>
>
> > > You have to have a LOT of customers to run an ISP in the black. It's
> > > not the equipment that necessarily costs - you can build a decent
> > > ISP-in-a-box with a couple of Linux PCs and a rackmount modem bank
> > > plus whatever access equipment you need which you can probably get
> > > off ebay cheap nowadays - it's the internet access.
> >
> > Unless, you happen to know someone who has all this, in Los Angeles
> > granted but with national coverage. With enough qty I bet I can get a
> > decent deal. We'd just be another sub ISP. Most ISP are under other
> > ISP's.
> >
> > This is one I built many years ago. Lot's of changes and it's not very
> > big but operational. Dialup makes no diff as they all (almost) use
> > UUNET pops anyhow. Broadband is also available. It's in some nice NOC
> > (Network Operations Center).
> >
> > My e-mail is actually one I've kept as I did the support for a few
> > years, a number of years ago.
> >
> > If enough are interested I can check what kind of pricing we can get.
> > 56K, DSL who knows maybe RR too as it's being resold. Twenty five
> > accounts could be a good enough.
> >
> > This would in fact either be a colocate or space rent on their servers.
> > I don't see why we would do anything but share space on a server. But
> > we could use our own name.
> >
> > Let me know...
> > --
> > Steve
-- Ian C. Blenke <icblenke@nks.net> Networked Knowledge Systems
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