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I'm glad to hear some criticism of Zope, I know it's not perfect. :-) If you
have questions about Zope vs. PostNuke, and you want to hear good things
about Zope, then send an email to zope@zope.org with this question, and you
should hear some good stuff.
Russell
On Wednesday 09 October 2002 12:26 pm, you wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 11:01, Ronan Heffernan wrote:
> > It looks like I might have a part-time job doing a mid-sized website
> > (lots of active content), and the boss is leaning towards PostNuke.
> > Does anyone have experience with PostNuke? Russell is doing a Zope
> > presentation tonight (which I definitely need to attend), and after
> > having skimmed PostNuke, I suspect that Zope might be a better choice.
> > It would be really great to talk to someone who has used both Zope and
> > PostNuke.
>
> They're really only superficially similar.
>
> PostNuke is designed as more of a canned web content management system
> (or "weblog" if you want to use that filthy word; this is the one and
> only time you'll EVER hear me use it) that you install and start
> using. There are a number of add-on modules that add extra features,
> but most everything you'd want for just a basic slashdot-esque news site
> is there already and working. You *can* write your own modules in PHP
> if there is something you want it to do that it doesn't do already, but
> having set up a couple of PostNuke sites myself, I have yet to write a
> single line of code to support them. You will need a MySQL database to
> run PostNuke however. (There are attempts at genericising the required
> database so you can use anything, but at the moment, you're stuck using
> MySQL until that work is complete. Not that there's anything
> particularly wrong with MySQL, but some people prefer other things.)
>
> Zope, on the other hand, is really an application platform that can be
> made to do any number of things, including acting as a web content
> system. It's been a while since I've messed with Zope, so whether or
> not it does this sort of thing out-of-the-box or if you have to download
> a Zope module for it, I'm not sure. Chances are, you'll have to install
> a specific application to turn your Zope server into a web content
> system. Zope is itself written in Python, so it's easiest to extend it
> with Python, but it also has its own DHTML system that is a tag-based
> "language" that lets you do some basic dynamic stuff without writing any
> "real" code. Zope has its own datastore that all the content lives in,
> not in the filesystem and database like PostNuke, so on the one hand,
> there's no database setup, but on the other hand, you've gotta do a lot
> more work to actually be able to talk to a database with Zope if you
> don't want to use the built-in datastore for whatever reason.
>
> They're both nice systems, used by plenty of people. If you just want
> to install it and get it working and tweak the look-and-feel, then use
> PostNuke. If you want to write it yourself and control every little
> aspect of the site, use Zope.
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